Supercross Diference between a whip And scrub.

[Chris Bowles]

What is the difference between a whip and scrub? I know a scrub is to not go as high and a whip os for show or to set up for corners but do you do them the same way????? or is the whip body posistion and the scrub flicking the handlebars???

[Tha Breeze]

A whip is mainly counter steering on the face to bring the back end around and the scrub is when you steer into the face to wash out the front tire. You use more of your body in the beginning of a scrub than in the beginning of the whip.

[Chris Bowles]

what is counter steering?

[Nosebag]

Scrubbing is intentionally washing or laying the bike over on the face of a jump to "scrub" height, allowing you to hit the jump much faster, making for a flatter path through the air so you can get back to the ground faster. A whip does require some technique off the jump face, but whips and scrubs are not even close when to comes to the level of difficulty. A whip usually results from a scrub.

[Tha Breeze]

what is counter steering?

Steering away from the face of the jump.

[Chris Bowles]

so scrubs are hardeR?

[theuberacer]

Steering away from the face of the jump.

That's not how I do it, I make a nice arch on the jump face. Say I want to whip it to the right I start about a foot to the right of where I want to leave the jump face, and just turn it up the face and it whips it right out. To scrub I flick the bars more at the end and try to wash the front end out to keep the bike low. But I turn into the face to do either.

[crf150f guy]

scrub:

whip:

[Barkley_Nik]

My whips usually result from scrubs

my avatar is me scrubbin on a friends 250f, that one turned into a nice whip after I dropped the front end

[guitarnut57]

Say I want to whip it to the right I start about a foot to the right of where I want to leave the jump face, and just turn it up the face and it whips it right out. To scrub I flick the bars more at the end and try to wash the front end out to keep the bike low. But I turn into the face to do either.

Same thing I do on the face.

Scrubbing is intentionally washing or laying the bike over on the face of a jump

Great description. The bike is leaning to the inside or laying down instead of more upright or leaning to the outside like a whip.

I have never had formal lessons on how to whip or scrub, but here is what is going through my head as I approach the face of a jump and what I think the biggest difference is between the two, which is lean and angle of the bike on the face of the jump):

On a traditional whip, I lean my posterior (butt, if you will) off to the outside edge of the seat and hit the face at an angle, which in turn from a viewer's perspective would make the bike appear to lean to the outside and cross-up with the rear wheel swapping out to the side.

On a scrub, you are steering hard into the face as ube mentioned, leaning the bike to the inside and forcing the bike to wash-out, which from a viewer's perspective would make the bike appear to lean to the inside of the jump, or "lay down" as Nosebag pointed-out. Sometimes this "laying down" can be so low and close to the face that the pegs dig into the dirt as the bike leaves the jump. As I said, this is how I do them, and I could just be a freak of nature so don't take my advice as the norm.

[mxdude629]

Ive done 1 scrub (or what I thought was a scrub). I was just practicing doing little whips of the face of this jump and said "I think I can do a bigger one". So I came up to it leaned over just a little harder and scrubbed. I got thrown almost sideways. underjumped the jump and almost sh*t my pants. but I didn't crash amazingly. heres a couple of me not almost killing my self lol.

[287]

On occasion I've been known to whip the bike off a jump. Granted it's completely unintentional. Sometimes it's because I hit the jump still turning from the previous corner but usually it's the ruts in the jump face just kicking the back end out.

I've never done a "scrub" and landed it.

[flynn_]

On 4/30/2009 at 7:35 PM, mxdude629 said:

Ive done 1 scrub (or what I thought was a scrub). I was just practicing doing little whips of the face of this jump and said "I think I can do a bigger one". So I came up to it leaned over just a little harder and scrubbed. I got thrown almost sideways. underjumped the jump and almost sh*t my pants. but I didn't crash amazingly. heres a couple of me not almost killing my self lol.

Holy shit dude that looks legit as hell! Nice one!

[Doug Fugly]

A scrub ends up a whip, it takes a wimpy, mini-scrub to create a whip.

[Benhameen]

Wow. 2009. 

[777654321]

2 hours ago, Benhameen said:

Wow. 2009. 

Shake the 8 ball and maybe get 07 next ?

[motojunkiedan]

On 4/30/2009 at 11:35 AM, mxdude629 said:

Ive done 1 scrub (or what I thought was a scrub). I was just practicing doing little whips of the face of this jump and said "I think I can do a bigger one". So I came up to it leaned over just a little harder and scrubbed. I got thrown almost sideways. underjumped the jump and almost sh*t my pants. but I didn't crash amazingly. heres a couple of me not almost killing my self lol.

ClubMoto Livermore, CA 

[Chaconne]

On 4/29/2009 at 8:55 PM, Chris Bowles said:

What is the difference between a whip and scrub? I know a scrub is to not go as high and a whip os for show or to set up for corners but do you do them the same way????? or is the whip body posistion and the scrub flicking the handlebars???

https://thumpertalk.com/forums/forum/53-mx-riding-technique

Edited November 17, 2021 by Chaconne

[Trail_Trash]

 

[Bob Stanley347]

Another way to look at it...

 

This is basically a whip on the ground

 

 This is basically a scrub on the ground