Supercross Update on Ivan's and Preston's protests

[whoops dude]

so whats your point? I wasn't aware I had to be serious in every single thread I post but but thanx for that info. anyways those games are pretty much about whatever pops into your head but some of your posts in this thread are just plain idiotic. BTW how much do you get paid for keeping tabs on everything I post?

[Pornstar]

some of your posts in this thread are just plain idiotic.

I wish everyone on this site could debate like this without resorting to name calling.

BTW if you click on any member´s nickname at any thread you can view their entire post history.

[whoops dude]

way to twist words. just because I said your post was idiotic doesn't mean I was calling you an idiot. I thought someone as old as you are might be a little more mature than that.

[Pornstar]

I wasn't aware I had to be serious in every single thread I post but but thanx for that info.

I have only two posts on this thread.

In one of them i said that Stewart should be punished and out of racing until Ivan got racing again.

That was just an opinion. I never meant it to be applied or taking in consideration by the FIM or the AMA.

Its similar to when you hear about a rapist and say "He should be raped, or shot, or hung whatever." You know that laws don´t allow that but deep inside you feel the guy deserves a harsher punishment. Anyways you know that those same toughts you are saying wont be taken in consideration by the law.

The other thread was a response to someone else´s joke.

Yes, it was a joke. Older people have their sense of humour too.

If you dont want jokes or opinions to be posted in threads then create your own forum. Because there ain´t a rule in this forum that doesn´t allow opinions or jokes in threads.

[whoops dude]

I have no problem with anyone posting their own opinion. I wasn't aware of the joking nature of the post at the time so I apologize.

[984]

OK: I have to get this off my chest. I was at Unadilla, and actually on the track where it happened and saw it first hand. RC did not steal James line, he clearly was not patient enough and made an agressive move which almost costed both of them their careers! Very stupid move!

Second, I went to Toronto, was a great race until the end. Once again James, being James, made an agressive move, slowed down, Reed was charging and bumped James while going over the finish line double. Preston was slightly behind, and when James launched off to the side, the stupid flagman was so caught up in the action instead of doing what he is there to do, DID NOT WAVE HIS FLAG!, so, Preston thought all was clear, so he went for the double. Now James just lossed first place, he was obviously pissed, and rather than think logically, he thought emotionaly, hence him darting out on the track without looking, causing the whole dam incident.

I was not there for practice on friday, but a friend was, and clearly said it was James fault. The problem with this whole dam thing is that James needs to grow up, race responsibly, like RC, McGrath, Ward, Staton, Emig, the list goes on. Yes it is a dangerous sport, but people like James need to have respect for their competitors, and it is obvious he does not. He should formally apologize to both riders and the riding community, maybe, just maybe, they may forgive him. You know the drill if you have raced.

He will never be RC, never. He cares to much about the bling, not the race and the riders he competes against!

Enough said

good post. i agree with you on everything except the Tedesco thing on Saturday's practice. both those guys crossed their lines and Stewart took Tedesco out. in my opinion, it was neither of their fault, and i'm not a fan of those two. right after the crash, Stewart rolled the track, waiting for Tedesco to ride up, but he just sat there on his bike at the turn (maybe waiting for Stewart to come around again), but Stewart and Tedesco made one more lap and then Stewart pulled off and Tedesco followed and, they had words. that's what i saw.

[rion]

i think the other riders want to cause problems for bubba because they cant beat him

they wouldnt make the same protests if it was anyone else

bubba is not trying to hurt people, he just makes you earn it

we have accidents on the street everyday at slow speeds, so why wouldnt you have accidents on the track at race speeds

bubba did nothing wrong and shouldnt be punished in any way

it would be diffrent if he was to ghost ride his bike into someone

and if this was rc he would wine until it all goes away

[JohnnyOfast]

i think the other riders want to cause problems for bubba because they cant beat him

they wouldnt make the same protests if it was anyone else

bubba is not trying to hurt people, he just makes you earn it

we have accidents on the street everyday at slow speeds, so why wouldnt you have accidents on the track at race speeds

bubba did nothing wrong and shouldnt be punished in any way

it would be diffrent if he was to ghost ride his bike into someone

and if this was rc he would wine until it all goes away

Wow,,, you really hit the nail on the head.

Your hypothesis is incredulous.

[Sticky Throttle]

Stewart reminds me of R.C. before he won his first 250 main.He was on the ragged edge all the time,and still is just more controlled.Thats what separates R.C. and Bubba from the rest of the pack.They ride on the ragged edge and after a while they get comfortable at it.I've always thought Reed was the most controlled faster rider.If you want to win these days you need to hang it out there a little.

[scav_engr]

bubbles is a moron. I just watched toronto, I COULD NOT BELIEVE there was AGAIN another 'issue' with stewart. And 'this' after coming in hearing about tedesco as they showed it but had no replay. Unbelievable, truly unbelievable. Across all of 2005 bubbles was a complete idiot, and, he paid for it too but meanwhile not before risking the careers of several other riders in the sport.

For this toronto thing? B.S. bubbles knew where 'on the track' he was, what he did do was refuse to take the 4 or 5 second loss at the time to look, let a rider coming through go by, but instead he knew, tried to squeak through, and now he has excuses. that thing could have been a whole lot worse and it was bad to begin with. bubbles is the most pathetic rider in the sport, the guy is a liability and danger to the rest of the field.

[984]

Rion has a good point; if this were RC, it would be hardcore racing.

i like RC and all, but we've all seen him stuff Reed and Stewart into corners and his brake checks are almost signature, when he's going for it.

if you didn't see the Tedesco crash, you don't rate an opinion on it. sorry, there are all kinds of posts about that incident and most people haven't even seen it. for those of you who have, most agree with me, it was an accident and both their faults. as far as the Preston thing; Stewart should have looked...But he was also blinded by a potential victory.

[EatDirt5]

Rion has a good point; if this were RC, it would be hardcore racing.

i like RC and all, but we've all seen him stuff Reed and Stewart into corners and his brake checks are almost signature, when he's going for it.

if you didn't see the Tedesco crash, you don't rate an opinion on it. sorry, there are all kinds of posts about that incident and most people haven't even seen it. for those of you who have, most agree with me, it was an accident and both their faults. as far as the Preston thing; Stewart should have looked...But he was also blinded by a potential victory.

where can i see teh video(hot sauce & stewart crash)? I video taped the whole race but didn't see that crash- didn't even know stewart crashed...

[984]

don't know about video? i was just at the right place at the right time, i guess.

[Kawboy71]

Sorry, I can't support my favorite rider Preston here. Bottom line is he was a lapper who wicked it up after the leaders went by.

In the history of SX, has an enthusiastic lapper who tangled with the leaders (during THEIR battle) ever filed a protest? HE WAS A LAP DOWN. Ballsy as hell.

[MXOldtimer]

Sorry, I can't support my favorite rider Preston here. Bottom line is he was a lapper who wicked it up after the leaders went by.

In the history of SX, has an enthusiastic lapper who tangled with the leaders (during THEIR battle) ever filed a protest? HE WAS A LAP DOWN. Ballsy as hell.

Bullshizz! Preston jump'd the finish line jump just like every other rider on that track he wasn't racing with JS. The downside is blind to the rider and JS entered the track and cut across the track, what was Preston to do,,,,,use his air brakes???????????

Had he reentered and followed the flow of the track ever thing would've been fine but JS entered, then crossed the back side of a blind jump.

No excuse for that!

.

[CaptDan]

Sorry, I can't support my favorite rider Preston here. Bottom line is he was a lapper who wicked it up after the leaders went by.

Well, I have to support Travis here. The Finish Line jump looked pretty serious - it had a good-sized gap with a very peaked landing - no way would you want to come up short. This was one area where you would want to commit, and that means stay on the gas, lapper or not.

In the history of SX, has an enthusiastic lapper who tangled with the leaders (during THEIR battle) ever filed a protest? HE WAS A LAP DOWN. Ballsy as hell.

But that's a good point...

[CaptDan]

...(R.C. and Bubba) ride on the ragged edge and after a while they get comfortable at it. I've always thought Reed was the most controlled faster rider. If you want to win these days you need to hang it out there a little.

And that's what was making that race soo good! Reed would have to dig up an additional bit of skill/balls/fight to keep ahead of Stewart.

Real competition sometimes leads to a rider transcending his "control" and he moves into another level of speed (sorry to go Zen on ya). And that sort of riding is awesome to feel and watch.

Once again, I'm just sad there were injuries.

[a_gunslinger]

Im going to take some heat over this (putting flame suit on now): but it looked to me it was kind of like Bubba said about the Preston hit - he saw the yellow flag being waived so he re-entered the track, naturally assuming Preston would heed the flag and not jump. . Really seems more like a fluke to me. He's lucky the Reed nudging his back tire before the jump didnt really hurt him. After that your adrenaline is going and to regain your lead you glance left, see yellow flag and renter track - maybe not looking in the air too well (or looking the air but losing a rider in flight in the lights and crowd).

Now, DONT GET ME WRONG. Bubba is wild, DOES need to tame his impulses and mature. But that incident seemed more like a fluke to me. I can totally see RC getting sent off the track and in a passion to reclaim the lead make the same mistake. I think Bubba looked but didnt see.......