YZ250X TALK ME INTO IT

[Turn,TheScrew]

Plus 1 for the yz250FX.

The suspension,  engine, reliability,  transmission.... it all works great. The 4t will haul around 200 lbs no problem. The mapping and fuel injection make the throttle really twitchy, but you get used to it in 1 ride. Disconnect the clutch start cancel at the lever.

I think this bike (250fx) is a better choice than a 250x. I won a lot of races on it. Like a freight train In the woods.

[tkipp96]

10 minutes ago, Kinger317 said:

I should not have brought up oil but yes, for those who aren't WFO motocross 710 is good. The point I was making is if you don't run the bike very often a lot of people are afraid of ethanol etc. For those it's not a bad idea to add a little StarTron directly to the oil bottle, then you don't have to worry about it. I don't worry about it because I've never had a problem, even letting them sit over the winter.

Once you get the bike, set up, "the jetting/carb situation will" NOT be finicky.

Trust me, you don't wanna bring up oil and ratio! But FWIW I like 40:1

Yes, I started the power jet #40 topic

Thank you again! and yes i can imagine there have been some heated debates on oil & ratio choices! Thanks man i definitely feel way more confident in my potential purcahse now thanks to your info

[tkipp96]

11 minutes ago, Turn,TheScrew said:

Plus 1 for the yz250FX.

The suspension,  engine, reliability,  transmission.... it all works great. The 4t will haul around 200 lbs no problem. The mapping and fuel injection make the throttle really twitchy, but you get used to it in 1 ride. Disconnect the clutch start cancel at the lever.

I think this bike (250fx) is a better choice than a 250x. I won a lot of races on it. Like a freight train In the woods.

Thanks for the input but I'm looking to stick to the 2 stroke, I know someone with a yz250fx and he loves it and its been a really great bike. I see no problems with those bikes at all, seem amazing. Just something about the 2 stroke calling me back. Plus its cheaper

[shrubitup]

23 minutes ago, tkipp96 said:

Plus its cheaper

and much simpler since that is a feature you are seeking

[Charles De Mar]

Jetting has been covered 

suspension covered 

OEM pipe  

I ride the Mountains of Montana and love my 250x. It will do everything a ktm will do except for starting with the thumb vs foot. Mine starts in one kick. I put a Rekluse in mine which prevents stalling so much. Also, great technology.  
 

I have no performance mods. I don’t race, I’m 50 and just like running around the woods with the KTM clubs. Eventually one of those ktm bikes has issues before my bike. 
 

My stuff

fastway hand guards

molecule moto skid plate (you can have my aluminum Skid)

air fuel screw and idle screw with knob

front disk guard 

tm chain guide

zeta fork caps

13/51 sprockets 

 

 

[suckbangblow]

I have a 2016 and I love it. I have added a flywheel weight and apex head, but honestly those aren't necessary just things I wanted to do. Just jet the bike, set the sag, and do the powervalve mod. You'll have a heck of a bike. 

 

[Orange Crush 500]

2 hours ago, shrubitup said:

So you're saying one should remove the two cycle engine to install a fuel injected four cycle engine? Will it fit? Is this an inexpensive modification? Can I attach the two cycle exhaust to the four cycle engine? Where do I install the battery from the YZ250FX upon the YZ250X? Will it need four cycle suspension too or should I just use the stuff tuned for the weight of the two cycle model?

Lol. Yea all that stuff is easy to do and you would have a great bike.

Just kidding. I didnt realize the X was 2 smoker and the FX a 4 Stroker. My bad, im not a Yamadog dude. But I have rode them and did stay at a motel 6 last night. I will leave the light on for ya shrubitup

[beezer]

I have a YZ250X, a YZ250FX and a WR450F.  I mostly ride the YZ250X.

I had Factory Connection shuffle the shims and respring it which I do on every bike.  A heavier flywheel, Kingy 317 jetting, an Apex head and a missing shim from the govenor.  I also put in a Rekluse and the usual bark busters and skidplate.

2 of my buddies have 2022 Husky 300's.  They have 3500 each in the suspension and they still aren't happy.

We've swapped bikes and I couldn't wait to get mine back.

[tkipp96]

2 hours ago, Charles De Mar said:

Jetting has been covered 

suspension covered 

OEM pipe  

I ride the Mountains of Montana and love my 250x. It will do everything a ktm will do except for starting with the thumb vs foot. Mine starts in one kick. I put a Rekluse in mine which prevents stalling so much. Also, great technology.  
 

I have no performance mods. I don’t race, I’m 50 and just like running around the woods with the KTM clubs. Eventually one of those ktm bikes has issues before my bike. 
 

My stuff

fastway hand guards

molecule moto skid plate (you can have my aluminum Skid)

air fuel screw and idle screw with knob

front disk guard 

tm chain guide

zeta fork caps

13/51 sprockets 

 

 

that is exactly what i am going for. Running around the woods with my KTM buddies and just having a good time on a really fun & reliable machine w/o much work 

[tkipp96]

41 minutes ago, beezer said:

I have a YZ250X, a YZ250FX and a WR450F.  I mostly ride the YZ250X.

I had Factory Connection shuffle the shims and respring it which I do on every bike.  A heavier flywheel, Kingy 317 jetting, an Apex head and a missing shim from the govenor.  I also put in a Rekluse and the usual bark busters and skidplate.

2 of my buddies have 2022 Husky 300's.  They have 3500 each in the suspension and they still aren't happy.

We've swapped bikes and I couldn't wait to get mine back.

love to hear it! Where in jersey are you? feel like I've seen those power lines before, but it's good knowing someone who rides the same place i do loves the bike

[8675309]

I have had many yz's and just sold my 2017 250x after five reliable years riding it nearly every weekend. 

Pro's 

Reliable as stated

Simple to work on and jet

great suspension

much lighter than the three hundo's

Costs a bit less (but has gotten ridiculous)

 

Con's

no button 

no lighting

shifting from second to first on the fly is a PITA unless you like hitting neutral. 

 

I just sold my 450 xcw as well and purchased a new 501s

I love it, the new chassis is amazing and suspension is excellent after going 4 clicks faster on the fork compression. 

Will purchase a 2024 te or tx 300 to go in the shed as well.

 

Too old and cranky to be kicking any more. 

 

New yzx just needs skid plate and hand guards, I dicked with that suspension for years before finally getting it re valved which did the trick. 

Edited November 7, 2022 by 8675309

[Shawn Blais]

Imo you should get a 2017-2019 300 w/ low hours. 

* It's just as "simple" as the 250X, top ends last forever
* e-start
* head light
* counter-balancer
* better brake feel
* better clutch feel
* map switch w/ 2 modes
* tunable powervalve with red/yellow/green springs
* ~7000 USD for something mint 

It's not even close imo, no brainer.

With that said, to answer your question, I ride with a guy who has a bone stock 250X he love it, and absolutely rips!

Edited November 7, 2022 by Shawn Blais

[R. Dubya]

Absolutely nothing wrong with a simple, light weight 2 stroke. 

[beezer]

24 minutes ago, 8675309 said:

I have had many yz's and just sold my 2017 250x after five reliable years riding it nearly every weekend. 

Pro's 

Reliable as stated

Simple to work on and jet

great suspension

much lighter than the three hundo's

Costs a bit less (but has gotten ridiculous)

 

Con's

no button 

no lighting

shifting from second to first on the fly is a PITA unless you like hitting neutral. 

 

I just sold my 450 xcw as well and purchased a new 501s

I love it, the new chassis is amazing and suspension is excellent after going 4 clicks faster on the fork compression. 

Will purchase a 2024 te or tx 300 to go in the shed as well.

 

Too old and cranky to be kicking any more. 

 

New yzx just needs skid plate and hand guards, I dicked with that suspension for years before finally getting it re valved which did the trick. 

When I put the Rekluse in is when life got good.

Not having a button was no big deal anymore.

[8675309]

4 minutes ago, beezer said:

When I put the Rekluse in is when life got good.

Not having a button was no big deal anymore.

Had a rekluse in a yz once, when you kill it in a race it won't bump start. 

They do have some advantages though. 

[rockpenguin]

I had a 2021 YZ250X - loved it!

Pros:

• Bike is simple, tunable, and just all around awesome
• Good at harescrambles, enduro, [fill in type of riding] due to above bullet point
• Huge selection of aftermarket parts/accessories
• Yamaha dealerships on every street corner
• Did I mention the simplicity and abundance of aftermarket parts/accessories?

Cons:

• No e-start

If you absolutely need e-start, then this is not your ride. But if you are in shape and don't mind kicking a bike when you've crashed 30 times in a rock garden and are already tired from riding through said rock garden, then this is the bike for you!

Seriously, if Yamaha put an e-start on the X's I would sell my Husky and Sherco in a heartbeat and buy a YZ250X and a YZ125X. They are that awesome.

[Ud_Luz]

2 hours ago, beezer said:

2 of my buddies have 2022 Husky 300's.  They have 3500 each in the suspension and they still aren't happy.

MASSIVE improvement for the xPlor forks. Not near KYBs but converts the xPlor to convention OC forks with proper midvalving. As far as I know it's impossible to spend $3,500 on xPlor forks.  Even converting to the Ohlins or Sphere inserts don't cost that much. 

Trail riders: https://www.tokyooffroad.com/product/xpone2022/

Racers: https://www.tokyooffroad.com/product/xponepro/

I installed the second kit in my '21. Totally transformed the mess KTM built.  Still, the KYB equipped Sherco I have is considerably better. I'd take the Yamaha KYB over anything KTM puts out as far as suspension. 

 

[Orange Crush 500]

3 hours ago, beezer said:

I have a YZ250X, a YZ250FX and a WR450F.  I mostly ride the YZ250X.

2 of my buddies have 2022 Husky 300's.  They have 3500 each in the suspension and they still aren't happy.

 

I read for upteen years (since 2005 or 2006) in MXA & DB & DR mags that the Yamadog SSS suspension was the best thing out there stock from any manufacturer. Doesn't these bikes noted above come with this suspension??

Does any of you Yamadog owners try to dial in your  suspension with spring rates, oil levels and clicker settings anymore ??

Or do you all just send them out for revalves and hope the shop you pick knows what there doing and gets them rite for your weight, riding terrain and skill level ??

Edited November 7, 2022 by Orange Crush 500

[basketrunner]

You’d be hard pressed to beat a yz250 with anything when it comes to out of the box fun. What a great bike. I have a 2021 yz250. Man do I love that bike. More fun than a barrel of monkeys. Get it. 

[ss-racing66]

45 minutes ago, Orange Crush 500 said:

I read for upteen years in MXA & DB & DR mags that the Yamadog SSS suspension was the best thing out there stock from any manufacturer. Doesn't these bikes noted above come with this suspension??

Does any of you Yamadog owners try to dial in your  suspension with spring rates, oil levels and clicker settings anymore ??

Or do you all just send them out for revalves and hope the shop you pick knows what there doing and gets them rite for your weight, riding terrain and skill level ??

I rode my 2 YZs (125 and 250) stock for about a year, then when it was time for an overhaul, I had a somewhat local  and trusted shop do it, and revalve them  (I fit into that weight and ability class where I can use the stock springs) and once I discovered how they work, wow, total eye opener!

I'm talking about moto though,  SSS (Speed Sensitive Suspension) is great, but IMO more intended for motocross

Edited November 8, 2022 by ss-racing66