Electric Motion Escape R

[WalkaBike]

2 hours ago, lotus54 said:

I like it quite a bit. Really the only thing I don’t like is range is nowhere close to what EM claimed. But even so I have lots of fun.

  The seat ‘subframe’ is not up to a real seat (same part as ePure). Yes, the bike begs to be ridden standing, since it is a trials bike, but some places I go it is better to sit and put a foot out since you can’t see the ground. Plus if logs of super slick and angled, often later in the day I will just seat bounce it for safety.

I’ve made an aluminum brace for that part- very similar to the steel one being made. I am making a jig and will make more for any that would like a much, much lighter alternative.

That's good Information! Range and the subframe were something I was worried about  Especially for the $13500 price tag that these have in the US.

[bweighmaster]

Are those bikes made by.   Ktm , or affiliated ?

[WalkaBike]

11 minutes ago, bweighmaster said:

Are those bikes made by.   Ktm , or affiliated ?

No. Not to my knowledge.

[bweighmaster]

1 minute ago, WalkaBike said:

No. Not to my knowledge.

Just priced the same. ?    Are they orange. ?   

[WalkaBike]

Just now, bweighmaster said:

Just priced the same. ?    Are they orange. ?   

 

[bweighmaster]

Thanks for the link ...   I'll stick to my old gas bikes ..  I can have a garage full at that price ....

[thejean]

On 3/8/2022 at 10:29 AM, WalkaBike said:

That's good Information! Range and the subframe were something I was worried about  Especially for the $13500 price tag that these have in the US.

I’m also considering an Escape R and would like to know if the subframe issue has been resolved in 2022?

I also notice the one at my dealer doesn’t have the regenerative braking lever so does that mean it only has FRB? Can the PRBL be added? 

lastly, trying to decide if I should get the ePure Race and add the seat it just stick with the Escape? Can the Escape pretty much do everything the EPure can?

[Drehwurm]

2 hours ago, thejean said:

I’m also considering an Escape R and would like to know if the subframe issue has been resolved in 2022?

A friend has the 2022 Epure Race and after spending considerable down time with a broken clutch (another thread here) it is now down again with a completely ripped off rear section - guess that should answer your question.

 

2 hours ago, thejean said:

I also notice the one at my dealer doesn’t have the regenerative braking lever so does that mean it only has FRB? Can the PRBL be added?

The manual for the "R" says that the 2022 already comes equipped with the electrical connection and SW ready for the regen braking. You just switch out the cover of the clutch master for one with an additional small lever and plug in the connections and you are good to go. Personally I think you actually need to be a very good rider to gain an advantage from the manual clutch on the EM and the regen braking seems like a better value for the average rider.  So if this particular bike ever runs again this will be something the current owner would love to try out.

 

Michael

 

[lotus54]

I made an aluminum subframe support- very similar to the steel one the person in Hawai’i is making, but a LOT lighter and I think still plenty strong.

 I am making a jig so I can make some more a lot easier, but I’ve had a bunch of other projects to finish first.

[Anthony Ramirez]

I looped my 2022 escape r, I don't see any subframe damage yet, so I want lightweight aluminum reinforcement before pushing the bike any harder. I guess I could go with something heavier but I was curious when you think you might have that jig ready to have some for sale?

[lotus54]

1 hour ago, Anthony Ramirez said:

I looped my 2022 escape r, I don't see any subframe damage yet, so I want lightweight aluminum reinforcement before pushing the bike any harder. I guess I could go with something heavier but I was curious when you think you might have that jig ready to have some for sale?

Yes, I just have another project to finish up- I really am trying hard to not get too many things going at once.

   Send me a PM with email and I can keep you posted.

[QDRHRSE]

I'm really interested in buying one of these. I have 4 primary questions. 1) I want to use it to do tight single track kind of riding. Does anybody have an actual range estimate in miles? If you keep it in the green mode and you're moving pretty slow, can you get 25-30 miles? 2) How durable is an EM bike if you don't crash it frequently? 3) how hard are parts to get? Last, 4) How wet can you get them?

[motovita]

5 hours ago, QDRHRSE said:

I'm really interested in buying one of these. I have 4 primary questions. 1) I want to use it to do tight single track kind of riding. Does anybody have an actual range estimate in miles? If you keep it in the green mode and you're moving pretty slow, can you get 25-30 miles? 2) How durable is an EM bike if you don't crash it frequently? 3) how hard are parts to get? Last, 4) How wet can you get them?

 Here's the answer to #4.

 

Edited August 8, 2022 by motovita

[lotus54]

1. They are great on slow/tight single track. I’ve never gotten more than 20 miles (33 km).  Perhaps if you ran higher than normal ‘trials’ pressures a few more miles are possible.  I usually run 3.5-4 psi rear for maximum traction. 

2. They are pretty well made, but like any trials bike- not as durable as one of the ‘mainline’ enduro bikes.  

3. I have not needed many parts- the ones I ordered came though fine. 

 

Edited August 8, 2022 by lotus54

[thejean]

I rode mine for a hard two hours in the west coast of Canada mountains and got 27 km before she was stone dead (and needed a tow back to truck). That included some steep downs with progressive motor regen. Mostly in blue mode. Some road which really seemed to kill the battery. It handled the slow and nasty very well and had no issues keeping up with the bigger bikes. Clutch started to fade. Better as a pure practice bike if you ask me. I’ll keep my 300 for the big hard enduro days. I will Say that since getting this bike my enduro skills do seem to have improved. Being able to practice with a slightly smaller version of the bigger bikes does improve confidence on the larger machines.