I'm really confused guys? The mags and bubba and Matthes all say the bike is unstable and you all say it is great. I personally think the 3 I just mentioned have runined this bikes reputation but really what is the deal? I don't want to know how to fix it I just want to know how stable is it over long natural woops/rocks/sand and fast desert. I'm not to concerned about cornering because any bike has the ability to corner better than I can make it. I'm more interested in stability you know the thing that Yamaha used to pride it's self on! Cornering was never a strong Yamaha attribute so why crucify it now? Like I said I don't want to hear about lowering links and motor mounts and bla bla bla bla. That is all motocross gimic crud in my eyes where maybe you are trying to gain half a second on lap times. Sorry not interested in that. I'm 27 6'2 225 I think you gather where and what I ride from above but just to put it out there I ride hare & hounds, enduros, and a few GP's. I have been ridding Yamaha 4 strokes exclusively all of my days riding except after a long break from riding this last year I went to a yz250 to improve my overall riding abilities like clutch work throttle control and breaking. Overall it was a great move for me to get my self back to where I was and beyond. But I have ridden my buddies 03 450 a few times recently and it's time to take what I have learned and get back to my comfort zone. So I guess my question is, Are these new 450's trying to become twitchy 2 stroke 250's or are they still the stable platform from say 06 like my last thumper. Also as a side note I do like the harsh power of the 03 450 better than even the 06 I had. How do the new bikes compare to them?