I just went from a crf450 to a almost new 200 mile pig. First lesson learned if you want to turn fast stay on the gas. The bike is uncorked and jetted . It felt a little lazy then you look back and it's digginng a four inch trench. Second where did honda hide the rear brake pedal way too small . The stock bars are the worst bend I've ridden .I put new bars and a steering stabilizer on ,now it's much better. The 450 was a great bike but I wanted to take some long rides . I think the 650 will fit my needs . now only if I can make it wheelie from corner to corner like the 450.