I am curious. What does the 450 starter weigh. Anyone know. Have been panning to remove mine and plug the hole this winter when I tear down for maintainence and have time to scrounge around for just the right size plug. I wieghed the battery and headlight together and it was 5.1 pounds. Needless to say they got put on the shelf. This bike starts as easy as any two stroke and I dont ride at night so I figure why tote it around. If my starter and battery had been worth a crap I would have never known how light this bike might feel. Now if I can just scrounge up the coin for some light weight sprokets and exhaust system.