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New to Hare Scrambles - bike set up

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I have an '01 YZ 250 2 stroke that I'm going to be using for Hare Scrambles this coming season. The only mods done to it are a Pro Circuit pipe and silencer. What mods would you guys do to it to get it ready?

I've been racing Motocross and may still use it for that (I have a thumper that's my MX bike) but I want to try some Hare Scrambles. They look like some serious fun!!!

So what have you guys done as far as things like gearing, suspension, hand gaurds, fly wheel weights, etc.

Thanks!!!

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You are on the right track....

My hare scramble bike has the following

Revalved suspension

Skid plate

bigger tank

Radiator braces

Bigger rear sprocket for tighter courses

Handguards (I prefer the flag style with folding levers)

HD Tubes at the bare minimum. Plan on flats being a problem, you could opt for Tubliss or Bibs.

You could even get a steering damper if you really want to get carried away.

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Yea this upcoming season I want to get into hare scrambles. I've got 5 miles of single track hell and a 100 acres that I ride on. This upcoming year I want to see how I do competing against others. I've never raced so it will all be new to me. I'm on a stock KTM 300. I'm also curious to what you may want/need for racing hare scrambles.

I'm sure you could run a stock bike and place pretty well. From what I hear, one thing that is crucial are pull straps!

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You are on the right track....

My hare scramble bike has the following

Revalved suspension

Skid plate

bigger tank

Radiator braces

Bigger rear sprocket for tighter courses

Handguards (I prefer the flag style with folding levers)

HD Tubes at the bare minimum. Plan on flats being a problem, you could opt for Tubliss or Bibs.

You could even get a steering damper if you really want to get carried away.

+1......You might want to have a Spark arrester as some courses require them,some don't.Lot's of tear off's and a camel back make life easier also.And get to the gym and get after it!!!Good luck to you!!!:bonk:

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+1......You might want to have a Spark arrester as some courses require them,some don't.Lot's of tear off's and a camel back make life easier also.And get to the gym and get after it!!!Good luck to you!!!:bonk:

Oh yeah... I forgot about that, too!

I wear a set of Scott goggles with roll offs and 2-3 holeshot tear offs.

I also wear a camel back that is the fanny pack style. It holds about 40 oz of

water, which sometimes isn't quite enough, but I don't like the feeling of 100 oz

of water sloshing around on my back, yanking on my shoulders.

You may have to refuel as well, so have a can of gas waiting for you at the pits.

I always change goggles when I pit as well.

Hope that helps.

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for the bike, skid plate bark busters if you want, a good sized tank some heat wrap for your pipe/ guards for your pipe (i learned the heat wrap the hardway...) and some $ or time setting the suspension the way you like it.

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You can race a stock bike and be competitive the good guys can win on anything. The only thing you really need are bark busters and good ones. See how you like it and then everything else mentioned on here are things to work on getting if you like it. they will fine tune your bike for sure Some places do require spark arrestor though.

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I did the following:

- Lower gearing (smaller front sprocket is cheap).

- Flywheel weight. I would get as heavy as I can.

- Suspension revalve. Be prepared for blisters and getting beat to death if you don't.

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It all depends on what your course looks like. Our HS are half MX tracks and the rest some high speed stuff and some tight turns. Stock MX bikes work just fine for that.

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Stock with bark busters will work fine.

I'm always more concerned about being in shape to ride at speed for 2+ hours.

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If you're lookin' to come up here to MN's D23 to do some "scramblin"" (Millville, Mazeppa, etc...), then you'll need a spark arrestor and a silencer that meets the AMA sound test rule of 94 dB. Everyone gets tested at every AMA sanctioned event here. Also, you'll want real handguards, as the trees get awful close at some of the courses here.

+1 at being in shape for a long ride although if you're a C rider, it'll be a 1 hour event for you. 1 hour for a tensed up C rider is probably tougher than 2 hours for an A rider.

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Since he's from Iowa I'd assume he will ride the IERA series. www.iera22.com

A spark arrestor is not needed. No sound test but having a quiet bike is always nice.

2 hour races, mostly all woods so bark busters for sure. Maybe a biger tank but I wouldn't worry about that right away.

Lots of guys run mx bikes like yours. Having the suspension revalved a little softer would probably help but ride a few races to see if you even like them.

What part of Iowa do you live in? Just asking because if you live in the eastern part of the state D-17 in IL has LOTS of HS races.

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What part of Iowa do you live in? Just asking because if you live in the eastern part of the state D-17 in IL has LOTS of HS races.

layton don't you do a bunch of wfo promo races?

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I live in Iowa City. (I'm originally from Minnesota and raced alot at Millville, Mazeppa and Plain View!) So yeah, I would do the IERA series. Thanks for all the advice!!!! Here's another question for you guys - Anyone use thier bikes for both HS and moto?

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My bike does double duty. I found that the stock suspension on my 08 CRF450r beats me up a bit in the woods, although, it beats me up on the track too :bonk:. I've recently revalved it so that it is a bit softer but, I do most of my riding/training on a motocross track so I valved it for the track not the woods. Alot of the races around here are incorporating motocross tracks into the courses so I don't find that a stiff suspension is that much of a disadvantage.

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I live in Iowa City. (I'm originally from Minnesota and raced alot at Millville, Mazeppa and Plain View!) So yeah, I would do the IERA series. Thanks for all the advice!!!! Here's another question for you guys - Anyone use thier bikes for both HS and moto?

lots do.. hard to have both perfect though especially after you revalve for harescrambles/enduro. Even stiffening the settings the initial stroke gets soft. I ride harescrambles way faster after revlaving my mx fork/shock. It ain't the same.. so if mx is your priority, just soften your clickers a bunch.

as some above have already suggested, just go do one to start. See what it's like. You don't "need" a bigger tank, flywheel weight, etc. I WOULD soften your suspension settings, write your current settings down somewhere and back stuff off. Harescrambles may have a little jump (1,2 maybe) but it is the sharp edge stuff (roots, rocks, ruts) that will really wear you down with firm mx valving/settings.

I would say a set of bark busters (like UFO, Aceribis, cycra, etc) , soften your suspension settings, and go race. You will plan on stopping for fuel and that may do you some good, the 1 min breather may help. Many do it that way.

PS: there are lots and lots of threads on woods set up/set up for off road..

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Sad...........:bonk:

I agree on the sound test part.

We don't race in any state or national forests so there for we don't have the SA requirement.

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