Alright guys, time for new knee/shin guards after my endo last weekend. Here's the deal, I was considering new ones before the crash - now it's going to happen. I want something that will cover my lower thigh just above my knee. I got some significant dirt rash just above both knees from the get-off. I have narrowed it down to 2 models 1. Moose M1 Knee Guards 2. MSR V-Top Knee/Shin Guards You can see pics of these in the January 2001 issue of Motocross Action pgs 119-120. These two models appear to offer the best protection on the lower thigh. Does anyone use either of these or know of any other models that would fit the bill. I'd probably just get the MSR's if they had an attaching strap on the upper section but it appears that they don't in the pic. Opinions??? (FYI, I currently use Fox Ventilator Knee Guards and wear new Fox 360 pants).