JR650, sorry if I'm coming off the wrong way and I hope I didn't piss you off. I've seen the dyno sheets like the one's from FMF many times and both these bikes have roughly the same power. The XR650R has way more torque. The WR's are very fast and are a lot different than the YZ's. Sorry you've had a bad experience with the KTM's. I have quite a few buddies that have them and have no more problems than any other bikes, my friends XR650 included. Like you, I have very strong feelings about which brand bike to buy. I'm die hard Honda and this WR was a very difficult choice for me but it has been an awesome bike and very reliable. I had an XR400 before that and it's worlds better. I'm still waiting for the CRF450 or CRF250 and I'll sell the WR at that time. OldOutdoorsMan, to address your issue of me never having ridden an XR650R, here goes. I bought an XR400 after 20+ years of riding 2-stroke 250's and 500's. Had it a year and was riding with my friend with the XR650R and decided I needed something with more suspension, power, etc. I rode his bike extensively in many situations. Tight gnarly single track trails, wide open fireroads, 13,000+ feet trails, Moab type slick rock and wide open sand washes in Moab. I almost bought this bike. It was just too much weight for me over a long day. We both like to ride very aggressively all day and I just notice that I get a lot more tired on the big XR. Even out in the open where the XR650R shines, I still like the WR better because there is less weight and better suspension. For ME this is a better bike. Outdoorsman, have you ridden a WR? Carlisle, one other thing to consider is that the WR will have many interchangeable parts with your 250. I just noticed that you are in Fort Collins, we should get together before you buy a new bike and you can ride both of them. That should give you the best info.