tell me why i should buy a yamaha..?

ive owned hondas and yamahas and a few kawis. im looking to buy an 01+ bike. im stuck between the honda and the yami. without being BIASED, i would like to know what you like better about the yami than the honda, what is better than the honda. have any of you ownder or ridden both? what are your thoughts?

the honda doesn't handle as well, but the the yz-f has a weaker motor. They're both really reliable except for the older honda 4-strokes which dropped valves pretty frequently...

Number one biggest reason I ride one is durability. KYB suspension isn't a bad thing, either, but Honda's using that now, too.

i do like the fact in that the yz motors were always reliable. im 5'10" 195ibs(all muscle) i just feel that the crf fits me better because it is more compact. the yz does feel a little big on me. how does the yz handle in the air? turns? etc?

As a Honda and Yamaha owner, I must say that I have had good luck with both brands. Overall, I am just slightly partial to Yamahas. However, there really hasn't been any significant differences in the ownership experience between the two makes for me. If I had it to do over again I wouldn't change anything. I wouldn't rule out any of the other brands either. The modern era bikes are all pretty good as long as they are maintained properly. I'm sure that I would be just as happy with a KTM or Suzuki. Each brand has their strengths and weaknesses.

i meant 10 + sorry!!

Honda...... Yamaha....... Pepsi..... Coke..... same thing. At my riding ability I only notice very subtile differences bewteen the two. I could be very happy with either.

For me all boils down to how easy it is for me to get quick service and or parts. My local Yamaha dealer is 10 min away from my house. And they are an excellent dealer at that...

I dealt with my local Honda dealer which is 45 min away, and the parts manager could not find the exhaust gaskets p/n for a '75 CB750... :smirk: . had a bad taste in my mouth thereafter...

I have always had the best luck with Yamaha's. Kawasaki's were a nightmare of problems for me inthe past, Hondas' never really appealed to me (knew to many people with valve issues) Suzuki's never owned one and dont plan on it.

I've had three crf 450's and three yamaha 450's IF maintained properly both will last a long time (i.e. regular oil and air filter changes) the honda's have a stronger stock motor, turn better and feel a bit lighter. The yamaha's have better stock suspension, brakes and better reliablity. I presume your buying used in and if that is the case buy the best maintained low hour motorcycle you can find. Good Luck!

Both are fine machines on the track/trail or wherever you are riding.

However, IMO, the Yamaha is much easier to work on. ex- getting to the carb, engine removal, subframe installation (Hard to get Honda air boot on the carb and even see if it's on all the way).

But...The worst thing about the Honda is the air filter! This is something you have to deal with constantly-

It's the same size as the air box it goes into and the cage looks like it belongs on an old XR model. There is no way to put a clean filter in it without rubbing the filter all over the inside of the airbox. Once it's in, it's hard to reach around and feel if it's in place too. I'm all about keeping the airbox clean, but with a Honda you must have it surgically clean to keep from knocking dirt into the boot.

Yamaha's filter is smaller, the opening is bigger, the cage is simpler and a blind guy could change it.

That for me is reason enough to go with a Yamaha....

Since the OP specified he was looking for a '10 model, the air filter issue is an even greater contrast to the Honda.

But a tip for both earlier YZ models and the CRF is to take the oiled and assembled filter/cage/retaining bolt and put the whole thing in a plastic grocery bag, get the filter in place inside the air box, and pull the bag off. No oil on the sub frame, no dirt on the filter. Helps to cut the handles off the bag.

The shopping bag is a great idea Gray.....

The OP's post says 01+ . But yeah, the '10 Yamaha is entirely different.

ive owned hondas and yamahas and a few kawis. im looking to buy an 01+ bike. im stuck between the honda and the yami. without being BIASED, i would like to know what you like better about the yami than the honda, what is better than the honda. have any of you ownder or ridden both? what are your thoughts?

Ok I am convinced - buy Yamaha. I love the part about Honda air-filters - sounds petty but so true.

The OP's post says 01+ .

His first post did, but then in post #6...
i meant 10 + sorry!!

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