Endurodog, What I'm trying to say is obnoxious sound is everyone's enemy - (think about how any overly-noisy person is characterized in any setting!) as long as we all don't try to keep our sport as quiet as possible there will be no new riding areas and there will be continued, perhaps accelerated, closures of what we have. Where do you think much of the predjudice or perception comes from to start sound regulations? It won't "spread" from California, it will develop on its own in every place where population is growing. Yes, it is a pain to lose some HP, and yes, mufflers are expensive and are not up to par yet, etc. and yes, we'll lose some ground no matter what we do - but I guarantee that if you want to lose it all in our lifetimes, just support the dummies who think that fighting for SOUND is an issue of value. This isn't about lobby groups or the BRC or the AMA or any of that - this is about general public perception and how politicians view what the majority of voting citizens need in terms of open space and recreation. Sometimes you must bend to survive - without having to bend over completely. Quieter bikes? I think we will all benefit - I know I will, regardless of the land use issues.