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I race a 08 YZ 250X in enduros in the "A" class.
I bought the 21" NueTech Tubliss which was the only one available. I replaced a super heavy duty Michelin tube.
1. MUCH better front grip. The front end has always been loose in turns, but now the front stays put and the back wanders. 11lbs worked great.
2. Thanks to reduction in rotating mass the front brake has better stopping power. I was considering an over-size disc until I installed the Tubliss.
3. The front follows the ground better and almost seems softer in the first couple inches.
4.There seems to be less pounding passed through the bars to my arms.
5. No risk of pinching a perfectly good tube on installation.
6. Quicker tire changes.
1. They suggest a new tire with an new Tubliss. I installed a "one race" Michelin and there was a slow leak. The indentations from the old rim lock creates a space for the air to leak out. I think that for racers that switch between practice and race tires, you may spend some extra time lining up the rimlock markings with the rimlocks.
I will be the first in line to get a 19" for the rear.
First I was thinking of using tubliss with a trials tire. I see people saying it is the way to go and some are using radial trials tires. How exactly does that work? I ran a Dunlop trials tire for about a year (with a tube) and that thing was sliced to hell by the time I took it off. There is no way it would have held air for more then one or two rides at the rate the damage built up on that tire. Are these people somehow not having the cuts I experienced or do they just plug and patch their tires a lot? I think the MT43 would be a lot better option but even it’s sidewall is light compared to most knobbies. Maybe it would be reliable, don’t know?
Then I was thinking maybe just run a knobbie with tubeless. At 4psi I bet a M5B would go great everywhere. The advantage seems to be that it would be a lot less likely to puncture the sidewall. And if it did happen the tubliss inner high pressure tube would keep the tire on and I could probably just fix it later at home. Worst case scenario and the inner tube fails and it would still be no worse than a flat with a tube. And with a knobbie I could still ride out completely flat if I had to. Maybe this is a bad assumption as I am not sure the tubliss rim lock would keep the tire from spinning with no air.
But I am even a little leery of a knobbie. The reason being is that when I read some of the post where people are going on about how wonderful and flawless their tubliss setup is they sometimes mention things like “my front tire is holding 4 plugs just fine and the rear had 3”. Reading between the lines this means they have had multiple failures for the life of the tire. This is not confidence inspiring as I can usually count on wearing out several tires for each pinched tube. But I am not sure if this is typical of NW riders as we might have less pointy things going into our tires.
So basically what I am interested in is the experiences of tubeless users in the NW, particularly those who ride the TSF and similar conditions regularly. Like how long have you used the product, with what tires and air pressure, and how many failures have you had and what type?
So I bought the tubeliss system front and rear for my bike a few months ago for Expert/pro level enduro/harescramble racing on my yz250. Just wanted to write a review about this awesome product.
I can't say enough good things about this product as well as the customer service from Jeff at Nuetech. I have over 30 hours of hard Colorado riding on these bad boys and absolutely love them. I can charge hard rock sections with confidence and have run down to 10PSI through really nasty rock gardens without issue. I used to have to pick a smooth line and go kind of easy through rock gardens with UHD tubes, now I just charge without regard. These things are awesome. I don't have any issue with pressure loss over time even with slightly dented rims.
Secondly, the customer service from Jeff is amazing. I have had only one issue with the Nuetech system and that is a flat from an incredibly hard hit in my rear rim. The kind of hit that would have trashed an UHD tube and trashed a rim. I told Jeff about this and a few days later a new red outer carcass, tube, and rim tape showed up on my door.
I've been racing for over 10 years and this is the best customer service I've ever received, even better than certain "sponsorships."
Jeff, you're doing a great job. If Nuetech sold more products, I would buy them. If you are on the fence about buying these things, buy them. Short of an insanely hard hit like I had they are virtually flat proof with slime. My friend flatted two UHD's on a trip to Moab while I was running 10PSI without problem. After the cost of his two UHD tubes and the third to replace them he could have just bought a Nuetech.