Maybe this will help: A friend of mine is a front of the pack Vet A offroad racer and he has an '08 YZ450F and an '07 YZ250 smoker...both set up very well for the woods. Our woods here in western WA are incredibly tight and root infested. He decided to sell the YZ250 because he likes the 450 more. Thanks so much for the encouraging words. The Y we ride sales event is SO damn tempting. I just have to know what a YZ450F rides like in the woods! Will it allow me to ride more often? No! Maybe it's just the shiny new plastics and different motor sound I am curious about. I hate advertising.