I've been googling rumors for 2009 bikes, especially the Yam 450...well TT keeps coming up, but when are we going to get some REAL info on the '09's on the web?! I'm back to a YZ250 2 stroke until I find out what's going on with the 09's. I never came to terms with my 2006 450 Yam - selling it. The front end really bugged me. Honestly I'm not sure if it's a complaint about 450 weight in general or just the '06 Yam frame. I am faster on my 2 stroke and faster on a 250F...at least the '08 KX250F I just rode. I can drive either of these bikes into corners further, and get on the gas sooner and if I make a mistake I can correct. I used to laugh about the idea of a 350cc 4pop but am considering a big bore 250F. The weight of a 450 screws up my cornering ability (races are won in the corners!). If I could have a 10lb lighter 450 I' would gladly take the horsepower...but I don't see that happening anytime soon.