HEADS UP!!!

Site upgrade in progress... Core site functions are working, but some non-critical features/functions will be temporarily unavailable while we work to restore them over the next couple of weeks.

Please post any bugs you encounter, but before you do, check to see if it's already listed.

Thanks for your patience while we work to improve the community.

Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
canute

Ticket for no spark arrestor in my yz

34 posts in this topic

:confused:

Riding my yz400f on "federal" land.

Well the nice ranger paid a visit as we where loading up to leave....

carried a small diameter length of wooden cane.... stuck it right up the old exhaust and charged me $125 :excuseme:

Any one have a good solution for a spark arrestor for the yz: both 250f and 400f (i guess i will need them for both)

thanks in advance

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Pro Moto Billet makes a spark arrestor end cap that will work. They also have silent inserts if they do sound checks and you need to be below 96db. You could also go with an FMF Q2 or Q4 exhaust if you need a spark arrestor and want to quiet the bikes down below 96db. If you decide on the PMB make sure to repack the muffler while you have it apart. Silent Sport packing works really well.

PMB

http://www.promotobillet.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/46_48_39

FMF

http://fmfracing.com/products/catalog.aspx?CategoryID=31

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I installed a Pro Circuit T-4 exhaust system on my 02 YZ426 and it came with a spark arrestor insert that could be mounted under the removable end cap. The spark arrestor is nothing more then a small piece of wire mesh in the shape of a 1-1/2” cone. I bet you can fab something up with some stainless wire mesh if you cannot find an insert that will fit under your end cap. Sometimes the rangers will also take a look at your muffler/silencer to see if it is stamped with the words “For closed course competition use only”. If it does say that, they will know it’s not set-up with a spark arrestor insert.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Appreciate all the info .... actually the Ranger was fully aware of the model of the bike and its stock exhaust clearly stating “For closed course competition use only”.

Any body know - If i use a spark arrestor end cap on the stock silencer will our friendly Ranger allow it even thought the silencer is still stamped “For closed course competition use only”?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Appreciate all the info .... actually the Ranger was fully aware of the model of the bike and its stock exhaust clearly stating “For closed course competition use only”.

Any body know - If i use a spark arrestor end cap on the stock silencer will our friendly Ranger allow it even thought the silencer is still stamped “For closed course competition use only”?

It will be fine since the new end cap will be stamped USFS approved spark arrestor.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If you're just looking for an easy fix the Factory 4 slip on by FMF comes with three end caps - open (for tracks and other non-regulated areas), spark arrestor (to avoid the $$$ to the rangers) and a quiet core (to drop the db levels which can be run with either the open or spark arrestor). Mine (on my "04 450F) was really eay to install and just required minor rejetting. Changing end caps takes just three screws. AND... its less expennsive than a lot of other options!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I just read the info for the 2008 season at my local practice track. They specifically state in the new rules for 2008 "Stock exhaust systems only". Not sure how hard they will police this new rule, but I am thinking stock YZF exhausts prices are going to skyrocket on Ebay as this push for "quiet" gets broader nationwide..... !

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wow, only $125 ticket?

Don't even ask what it is here in CA. Last I heard it was up in low to mid $300's

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I just read the info for the 2008 season at my local practice track. They specifically state in the new rules for 2008 "Stock exhaust systems only". Not sure how hard they will police this new rule, but I am thinking stock YZF exhausts prices are going to skyrocket on Ebay as this push for "quiet" gets broader nationwide..... !

What about quieter than stock systems?

Wouldn't it be more fair to just test the bikes?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Appreciate all the info .... actually the Ranger was fully aware of the model of the bike and its stock exhaust clearly stating “For closed course competition use only”.

Any body know - If i use a spark arrestor end cap on the stock silencer will our friendly Ranger allow it even thought the silencer is still stamped “For closed course competition use only”?

Take some steel wool and rub away that unfriendly quote from your silencer to hide that nasty statement. Just put a pmb on there and ride.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
It will be fine since the new end cap will be stamped USFS approved spark arrestor.

x2. I have the PMB and it's the ticket. The sparky is removable for track days. Looks trick too. The USFS approval is etched in and will supercede what's stamped on the can. If you're concerned, just sand off the stanping with some fine grit sand paper and polish it up.:confused:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

$125 ain't that bad. FS tickets in my area of Colorado are $300. Then again our forests are completely dead from beetle kill and will go up in a second.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Then again our forests are completely dead from beetle kill and will go up in a second.
...and of course, the 'huggers won't let anyone go into the forest to clear any of the dead wood, either, right?. In the recent wildfires in San Diego County, the fire front moved forward at speeds up to 60 mph at times, and yet when it started up the side of Mt. Palomar, the fire crews were able to turn it back and save the top of the mountain. Why? Because that one area had had the deadwood cleared as "an experiment".

Don't get me started.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It has been well documented that if you clear out the underbrush and dead trees, combatting wildfires is much more effective.

But the greenies don't care about that. They are too concerned with saving the countryside in a completely pristine and unaltered state.

So that they can enjoy it for an hour or two every couple of years.

Stepping off the soap box now.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Did he actually see you riding? How can he give you a ticket when your loading up? How does he know that you were riding it, if he didn't actually stop you while you were riding? He can't assume, he needs to actually witness you in the act!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm surprised the ranger bothered to use the stick considering it was obvious you were running a stock exhaust. Hate to hear this happened, crappy way to end a good day of riding.

My vote is to get the PMB endcap with s/a. I just installed one on my '02 and it looks awesome. I chose to get one of the older "stinger" styled endcaps as I hate the snowcone styles you see now-a-days. I also got the silent insert as well. I bought both of them on ebay for around $60 brand new. Now I don't have to worry about Mr. Ranger. :excuseme: Both were very easy to install and I now have the ability to ride anywhere legally without adding to the troubles our sport now faces. :confused:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Everyone here belongs to a land use organization right? For example the Blue Ribon Coalition. If not, then sign up now! You have no right to complain if you're not actively fighting for your rights, and belonging to one of these groups counts. When was the last time you wrote to a senator, protested or did anything else to fight for your rights? Support these guys and they do their best for you: http://www.sharetrails.org/

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Patrick Henry, George Washington, and Thomas Jefferson all warned us that it would be like that; that we would have to be vigilant, and to defend our rights against those who would infringe on them to enhance their own power. Joining a land use organization is one way to do that.

But I disagree that you have no right protest an abridgment of your rights if you don't stand against it. It's wrong, no matter whether you stand up or not, and you do have the right to complain.

But joining an association to undo the work done by people elected to office already is like locking the barn after the horse has been stolen. It's all well and good to do it, but take it farther, and be more active in electing people who hold more reasonable environmental views than those held by almost every Democrat, and far too many Republicans.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Up here in the People's Socialist Republic of Washington we have to watch some of our lawmakers like a hawk. We have action alert email lists, etc to bombard our legislators when there are attempts to restrict our riding areas, enact biased laws, or reroute our OHV license money.

Just last week we caught a committee chair (a long time anti) that inserted anti-OHV language into a bill AFTER the rest of the committee had approved the bill. It was sent to the Governor for signature with the unauthorized changes for signature but we caught it and hit up our lawmakers with letters/emails and it turns out that the committee chair made some political enemies with that weasle-istic move. I don't think the other committee member necessarily give a rat's butt about OHV's but they are pissed that they were back doored. It looks like the Gov. is going to use her line item veto power on it :confused:

The point of this is that emails/letters to your legislators DO work. Be active politically!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0