HEADS UP!!!

Site upgrade in progress... Core site functions are working, but some non-critical features/functions will be temporarily unavailable while we work to restore them over the next couple of weeks.

Please post any bugs you encounter, but before you do, check to see if it's already listed.

Thanks for your patience while we work to improve the community.

Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
Wicked_Crash

Steering dampers

29 posts in this topic

I was just looking at steering dampers and they are fricken expensive!! I have never used a damper before so I wanted to check with the rest of you TTers on how they worked. Do they make the steering stiffer, harder to turn into tight corners? Or do they just act as shock absorbers? For $400+ they better do a whole lot! If they are worth it, does anybody know where I can get one cheaper and have any suggestions on what brand to buy? I appreciate all of your thoughts. :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Best money I ever spent. It I had it all over to do again, the only aftermarket part I would get for my bike is the dampner.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

managed to find a WER damper for £250 picking it up tomorow,,(is that a good price?)

along with all black plastics (woohoooo found emm finally),

new tires,(michelin m12's)

new o'ring chain and aluminium/steel/titanium sprocket.

ands maybe an hydraulic clutch (still undecided about that one)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Mark, I think you're paying allot for the WER. Here in the States they are allot less, but maybe with all the wonderful taxes over there, it gets REALLY PRICEY...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I bought a Scotts as part of a kit that included a new upper triple clamp, risers, the special handlebar clamp that the damper bolts to, a new Renthal Fatbar, and the damper unit itself. I got the kit from Baja Designs for $700. I probably saved $100 with the kit versus buying everything separately.

I needed advice when I mounted the unit (I got the bolt-on variety) and the folks at Scotts were very helpful - no complaints there!

The damper totally improves the ride. It eliminates headshake and prevents your front wheel from gettting slammed in the event you hit a rock. It takes a little getting used to at first, and you need to fiddle with the adjustments to get the "feel". Once you have it fitured out, you won't ride without one.

I love the Scotts but I guess the GPR is good too!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Just got a GPR and up to last weekend I have never crashed. With it I crashed big and don't know why, what do you guys run your dampers at? Hopefully I will just need to get used to it and will grow to love it.

GPR service is top notch and Randy stands behind his stuff.

Scotts service is bad and they are expensive.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'll 2nd, or 3rd, or whatever place I am in line, that!!!

Bought a Scotts a month and a half ago, just like everyone else, I'll never ride without one again. Someone once put it to me this way, "if it saves you from even 1 trip to the hospital, it paid for itself". I thought that was pretty sound thinking.

Ok, my $.04 on how they work. Sounds weird, but the funny thing is for the most part, you don't even realize that you have a dampener on, UNTIL you hit something!! I ride very tight, rocky, single track trails here in CO, and never have a problem with the dampener restricting my unforeseen turning. One thing that I found, is I really count on my dampener for the higher speed stuff, so I don't really crank up the slow speed dampening much. It's just what works for me.

Hope you find the will to save up for one, it's going to be the best upgrade you've done to date :D !!

Late

Dodger :):D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have a favorite run which includes a 100m long rocky path : football sized ones stuck in the ground. They are most definately in command without my scotts. .. I was constantly fighting the handlebars as they got whipped about.

With my Scotts the, bars still move but they dont get wrenched about. I am far more confident of not ending up on the floor.

As for high speed...I KNOW they saved my butt from at least 2 trips to the hospital.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

MXTuner,

I freaked out when I read your message - I went back through my stuff to check what I paid, and thankfully it was $599! I had forgotten that I bought other stuff at the time!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I will eventually get a GPR, just not now. I have to buy 3 of everything (I have two sons that ride as well), so cost is a consideration. I am not hearing good things about Scott's here on TT. I also know of at least two instances where a Scott's locked up (one was Dan Lorenze, a TT member). I was right behind him when it happened. Probably just a piece of grit in an orifice or something, but it was a hairy moment!

Dan

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Dan, I've never heard anything bad about Scotts dampers here. Maybe I just haven't seen the posts but I've never met anyone that wasn't tickled with their Scotts. I'm sure there may be a problem *sometimes*, but considering how many more Scotts dampers are out there than everything else combined, it has to be for good reasons. With steering dampers, you get what you pay for.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'll agree with Tuner. I've never heard anything bad about the Scotts , other than cost. The GPR comes highly regarded as well and for less money with the WER bringing up the back of the pack.

I also had a hard time paying $400 for something that did not add horspower and is the size of a can of chew. I do have to say it may not make HP but, does make me faster on the trail and track.

Bill

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

MXTuner, Bill,

On several earlier posts, there were a number of riders who complained about the unit wearing out, sudden drop in performance, etc. All complained that when the unit needed service for anything, it was a $90 bill from Scotts. One guy's unit was only a couple weeks old, as I recall. Several friends have had great performance from theirs, several have experienced same as the aforementioned TTers. I've ridden a number of bikes with Scott's installed and they work great, but in the last 3 weeks, I have heard from one person about a lock-up, and experienced it second-hand 50 ft behind another.

You are probably right, there are lots of units out there, hence more horror stories even if the vast majority of units are fine. It's just that many seem to be quite impressed with GPR's quality, service, and assistance and a bit disappointed at Scott's.

No doubt I'll wind up with one or the other. I want to pull my forks up a bit further in the clamps, and don't want headshake in high-speed sandwashes. My only issue is $600 X 3= $1800! I am in the middle of a house remodel working with roughly 1/2 my normal income. I think I'll wait just a bit longer.

Dan

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ok I'll jump in the middle of this one. I have a WER, have had it since June of 97 and I love it. I have had it rebuilt once and have rebuilt it once my self. I put lots of miles on a bike too. I ride the entire RMEC enduro curcuit and many of the Texas TSCEC races. I run the long course plus all the play riding and one trip to the Colorado 500, we actually did 730 miles that week. So I have lots of miles on the WER. I run it on my race bike which is a 2002 YZ250 now but it has been on my 97 YZ250 and my 99 YZ250. So I guess you could say I believe in the WER. For what its worth.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Info-

Scott's is actually an Ohlins - Scott's is the only distributor in the US.

I run a WER, have raced with Scotts. They are all best for high speed racing, and mostly they help fight fatigue.

If they were all the same price, I'd buy a Scotts/Ohlins.

As it is, I rarely race desert anymore, and the WER mounts down low, outta the way, so when I run a steering damper, it's a WER. BTW, I've had it rebuilt twice by WER since maybe '95.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0