DeWhat's a decent price for new '04 YZ450F?

I'm impatiently waiting for fuel injection on YZ strokers, but in meantime I'm thinking of filling gap between my old '99 400F with something a bit newer/lighter/etc. but less expensive than new '08s.

A couple questions:

Is the 2nd year 450 (2004) a decent year?

and,

Local shop has new leftover 2004 YZ450F . . . what would be a fair "out the door" price for it?

That's a tough one for everybody. Since you can go get a really good used '06 for $3500 or so, and clean used '03-'05 YZ450's go for as little as $2000, even a new '04 isn't worth much right now. If he holds it for 10 years, it will probably be worth more, but as it is, I'd guess it's worth $3000. I'd also guess he won't take it.

That's a tough one for everybody. Since you can go get a really good used '06 for $3500 or so, and clean used '03-'05 YZ450's go for as little as $2000, even a new '04 isn't worth much right now. If he holds it for 10 years, it will probably be worth more, but as it is, I'd guess it's worth $3000. I'd also guess he won't take it.

Whoa, only 3k??? :-o

That surprises me. I agree, no way he'll take that.

I would pay a grand over that for a new bike . . . maybe he'll take that.

I'm leery about used though, don't know what they've been through even if they appear clean.

Silly as it sounds, one reason I want the steel-framed 450 is ease of re-jetting; it's easy to get to carb! I was talking to locals with aluminum framed bikes and to re-jet they said removing shock, then removing carb was easiest method!

Is that true?

No. Removing the carb is significantly more difficult on the new bikes, but you don't need to remove it to rejet. It can be done without moving it at all, with the right tools.

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5323028#post5323028

http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/tools/fcr_carb_tool

A 1/4" ratchet and socket help to loosen the main jet.

Good info, this!

It appears the tools will work for main or pilot jet.

I don't see anything about needle clip position change though, which is a likely change (at least on my '99 for my altitude/temps had to go 1 clip richer than stock) Access to clip change is top of carb . . . perhaps I could get to that without rotating/removing carb.

That you can do fairly easily as soon as you accept the fact that the top engine mounts (head stays, if you will) have to come off. Then, the top of the carb is pretty easy to get at. Pulling the stays isn't hard at all. Trying to work around them is just miserable.

I'm impatiently waiting for fuel injection on YZ strokers,

After reading MXA'a test of the FI RMZ450 I wouldn't buy a FI anything until the factories do more testing, & I would NEVER buy a 1st year model FI bike. They said it has the power of a "RMZ 350". There is nothing wrong with the FCR carb on the newer bikes. My 06 runs perfect.

Yes, I bought one to try, and it's helpful. You'll still need a 1/4" ratchet and a 1/4" socket to use for breaking the jets loose (the pilot jet screwdriver bit fits in a 1/4" socket). The rubber liner on the knob needs to be glued in place, too.

That you can do fairly easily as soon as you accept the fact that the top engine mounts (head stays, if you will) have to come off. Then, the top of the carb is pretty easy to get at. Pulling the stays isn't hard at all. Trying to work around them is just miserable.

That's not so bad; I just got done with adjusting valves on my 400F (for the first time in it's life since new, although I've checked them many times; finally they needed adjustment!!) and removing the head stays was definitely the easy part of the job.

Perhaps I can find a leftover new '06 for a decent price . . .

mx1967, I'm waiting for the 2nd year FI YZ's, for the reasons you stated.

Getting a steel frame YZ cause its easier to jet? The bikes arent that finicky. You are going to ride the bike more than you are going to be jetting it. The 04 YZ450s were so big,go for the new aluminum frame.

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