Nice to see there are quite a few mx riders on the 450. My next question is, how many of you are over 30? It seems like most 450 guys are over that age simply because they don't take mx seriously anymore and they just want a powerful machine. How many of you fall in to that category? Reason i ask is because i don't want to be persuaded to go with the 450 by people who don't have the same common goal as me. I'm 33, and weigh 160lbs in gear. Been riding/racing motocross for 8 years, and riding motorcycles for a little over 20 years total. The two main reasons I went with a 450F instead of a 250F are that firstly, I'm riding at Denver elevations so we suffer a power deficit, and secondly all my riding buddies are on 450Fs and I didn't want to give anything up to them in horsepower. Plus, I just plain got tired of getting roosted off the line on my 250.. The transition from the two-stroke to the thumper was much easier than I expected (6 months and no crashes yet!). It's easier to clear the big jumps now of course, and I can be much lazier with gears and clutch that I used to be. I'm not a Pro/A however, and never will be so I don't really care if I'm getting a little sloppy with technique. My laptimes have improved on the 450F, and the bottom line is that I ride motocross to have fun.