Amen brother.Exactly. It's my choice, and I don't need that validated by having the majority of the population agree with me. Anyone who wants a Honda, or any other kind of bike for his own reasons (even if it's because of the color) is free to do so, and it doesn't bother me at all. In fact, it's more fun to pass guys on other bike brands than on other Yamahas, don't you think? My original points were two, and they were fairly simple ones: The idea that Hondas sell better because they are red is wholly incredible, and collapses in the face of any examination of the rest of their product line outside of dirt bikes, and, if you expect to be able to exchange ideas in writing, you should take a certain amount of care in the process so that you can be more easily understood. If I were to carry on a conversation with you or anyone face to face, you would expect me to speak clearly and sensibly, and get to the point in a reasonable amount of time. There is no reason that you should not expect the same from someone in this forum. No one expects each and every post to be grammatically perfect, just close enough to it that the reader need not work too hard to get the idea of what's been written. It's just simple courtesy, not Master's English. My apologies for the rant(s).