Don't even think about posting a reply with "It's all about the rider". I know and totally agree. I just thought I'de tell you all what happend to me when I drag raced my buddies new CRF450. This means nothing but I thought I'de waste some hard drive space on TT since everybody else does. We were side by side when I started to rev my WR and my buddy looked at me and got the hint. We were probably going 30mph when we both gave it gas, his bike immediatly took off faster my bike. I stayed close behind him and eventualy caught up to him. The biggest surprize for both of us was we were expecting my bike to run away from the Honda up to but I would say that my bike was only 2 miles faster on the top end. That's pretty impressive that their "close ratio tranny" kept up with the WR's Wide ratio. Both bikes had stock gearing. We weigh about the same. My bike has a PC-T4 with YZ timing. Oh, did I mention that the Honda is fast,slim,light and sexy looking. Oh man, I gonna start a global war here but he had to kick that bike a few times to get it going. He's the best rider I know in my group and has owned 2 Suzuki dealerships and has total understanding how to start the thing but my Yamahard to start lit up with a half of a kick..