XR650R wheels and spokes - not on the street

I have heard that Buchanan stainless spokes are soft (a soft grade of stainless) and stretch excessively. I have been having difficulty getting a set of wheels to seat on my 650. I just had the spokes replaced with 8 gauge ones because the original builder used what I believe to be 9 gauge. These are both Buchanan stainless spokes.

Someone told me that RAD has a higher tensile stainless spoke that while smaller than an 8 gauge is stronger and prefers to use an alloy nipple. I'm not sure about aluminum nipples on a 300+ pound desert missle.

I am getting mixed reviews on spoke torque as well. I have been told from different walks of wheel building experience torques ranging from 48 inch pounds all the way to 75 inch pounds!

Can anyone share their experiences/knowledge/recommendations here? Does anyone have experience (good or bad) with any of the aftermarket hubs?

If you have a look at the RAD site, they have stainless nipples as well:

http://radmfg.com/spokes.htm

but... I just talked to them on the phone, they don't make spokes long enough for the XR w/ OEM sized hub. Turns out they build their hubs to run a 9 gauge CR spoke.

The guy I talked to on the phone suggested getting Bulldog Spokes from the White Bros. catalogue.

Arent bulldog spokes made by buchanan?

Arent bulldog spokes made by buchanan?

:thumbsup:

The guy that I talked to from RAD said "If you can, get Bulldog spokes. They are made by the same people that make our spokes."

Kind of off the spoke question, but if you are concerned about spoke strength...safety wire them wherever they cross over. Essentially cutting spoke length in half. It sounds kinda hokie, but it is an old school trick with some definate merit.

Old school or not, this is a good option for hard core riders

Kind of off the spoke question, but if you are concerned about spoke strength...safety wire them wherever they cross over. Essentially cutting spoke length in half. It sounds kinda hokie, but it is an old school trick with some definate merit.

...and required in SCORE racing.

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