Sure, if every rider was riding their loud bike in the middle of nowhere we wouldnt have an issue with tracks closing and getting a bad rap from joe public. Unfortunately, there are scores of riders on obnoxiously loud 4 strokes who are doing everything from zooming down neighborhood streets to riding on private tracks that have neighbors who have to put up with hours of unnecessary noise. It's hard to believe that not all riders understand that their putting the sport and their right to ride at risk by not caring how loud a bike is. A perfect example..Look at Riverside Ca, an entire area that is looking at laying down some serious laws that will keep people from riding on their own land! Once, the public and lawmakers see a precedent set we will see these kind of laws spread further throughout the country. Personally, I could have just as much fun riding a bike that puts out 90 db as one that might have another hp or two and spits out an obnoxious 100 dbs that is also turning the publics opinion sour on off road bikes. Regulate ourselves, else we will find ourselves confronted with laws that will severely effect when and where we ride...it's not that hard to understand. The rub here is...Again, there are way too many folks who go out and buy an obnoxiously loud, high dollar pipe to add another hp to a bike already having over 50 hp. Would you care to guess how many of these people will actually spend any more money on another item to make the bike quieter? Based on my own real world experience, there are too many riders who just dont care enough about the noise issue to buy another add on like this. I have a track on my property and thus far my neighbors have been nice about the situation. In past years I've ridden a 2 stroke and when friends have come over to ride with 450s with loud pipes I've asked them if they could please put their stock pipe on next time they come over. This situation usually results in that person deciding it's not worth the hassle to to make their bike quieter and they will ride elsewhere. This kind of mindset is way to prevelant yet at this point. As anyone who has harped on this subject in the past has already stated many, many times...the simple answer is to have the AMA impose reasonable sound limits that force the manufacturers to build pipes that are not putting out ear splitting sound levels. It's hard to understand how the AMA cannot have the foresight to see what steps need to be taken to ensure we arent confronted with having more and more of riding rights taken from us. Until they wake up, I'm going to do my part to make sure I'm not part of the problem by buying loud bling pipes that give my bike 51 horsepower instead of 50. So, there should be bans on Drag cars, motorcycle road races, car races, Sprint car races, NASCAR races? Sure, there are db requirements for all those sports, but the fact of the matter is simple - pipes help with hp. They help in adjusting and making the power you refer to much more usable. Do we as riders need to be responsible? Yes. Does the AMA need to impose stiffer db requirements? I don't know on that. The OEMs are making exhausts that fit the AMA and other FIM, etc. rules. Why should we have the AMA make the db limit lower when it is off-road racing. Your energy may be better suited to going to local tracks and asking them to impose lower db requirements. See, johnny is still going to buy an exhaust. You make it sound as if Johnny buying an exhaust is an ignorant and useless thing to do - almost stupid. Why is it so stupid? Anyways, Johnny's still going to buy that exhaust. He's going to go down to the local track and rip it up. After a while, the noise is going to get to the owners around the track. Isn't it the responsibility of the track? I think so. Another note is that if you honestly think the 4-stroke is the reason for so many bans, you've missed a few years. We've had db issues and track closings for quite sometime. The MX industry is growing. More people are riding bikes so, yes, it is a situation where the 4-strokes are loud, but if the same number of people were on 250 2-strokes, it would be the same. The thing to consider is the expansion of house building. There are more and more houses being built near our tracks. The noise is only a small issue. This isn't just an MX issue, either. Road courses and such are under severe threats or being shut down. Tracks are imposing db restrictions that if you violate, you are fined. People are standing at tracks taking db samples and craking down. It is the track's responsibility to police this. They can enact treatment that can curb these issues. Don't come on here and tell people they are ignorant for putting on a pipe. Just because you may not be able to handle the 50 hp, doesn't mean everyone else can't, either. I've seen plenty of riders who need more... They're not stupid to want more power, are they?