Yeah I wanted an unbiased opinion, they would have said because it is the best bike. I have the 650L and it is a big heavy but powerful bike. I ride probably 50/50 and on the freeway it is OK but what about the 400 on the street? How much less do they weigh? I ride solo alot but am really thinking that when I go off road to buddy up, I am in N. Cal around Auburn area if anyone would like to get together and ride.