Wow....and someone mentioned that CRF guys whine and moan. Hmmm. I don't ever recall a thread bashing another brand on the Honda forums. Maybe we were to busy helping each other and discussing factual information concerning dirtbikes. Yes, I have been on a yamaha before, and why anyone would say they prefer riding a yamaha over a CRF, is beyond me. But, I don't hate yamaha's, nor will I bash them. It is becoming apparent that it is just some of the yamaha OWNERS that I don't particularly care for. It seems that owners of bikes that deep down, really feel that their bike may be a bit inferior, always have to start and fuel these bash threads, just to make themselves feel better. I guess if it makes you feel better, than good. Well, back to the Honda forums for me, so I can bitch about my valve problems. Wait, I forgot, I've never had a valve problem. I guess I'll have to find something to whine about, since I am a CRF owner. Hmmm.....maybe I'll bitch that I can't bitch about having valve problems. Thats it!