These bikes are great!

I took my brand new xr650 out for a ride before I uncorked it. To say the least, I was not impressed at all. In fact I was Pissed. I thought to myself " I gave up my CR500 for this?" I knew I would have to do the suspension so that was no big surprise, but I could not believe the lack of power this thing had. I kept thinking "I hope the guys at TT are right about how much power these bikes have after you uncork them". Well the advice I got was awesome. I bought a Bills slip on pipe, took off my smog crap, new air filter,manifold and jetting. This bike rips!!! With all the power, the suspension is not all that bad either because I can wheelie over stuff. ( It still needs to be done). I can't say enough about the bike.

Big Mutha, welcome to the brotherhood. Go to www.xr650r.us for all the info you can take. Eric has made a very comprehensive site dedicated to the 650r. First thing is to get the stock oil out of the forks. That stuff is funky!

Wecome to the BRP den, Bigmutha :D ......

yeah get your suspension done and you'll love it... :)

Yeah, I agree with you Bigmutha, but come on. . Even uncorked and jetted, you have to admit it's no CR500, or KX500 for that matter.

Out of curiosity, I drag raced my '00 XR650R (uncorked/jetted/airbox drilled)

against my '04 KX500 (stock), and the KX ran off and left my XR like it was sitting still, seriously, not even close up to about 90mph.

NOTE: does not include XR650R's with 70+ hp engine mods.

L.L.

'00 XR650R

'04 KX500

'05 DR650SE

Yeah, I agree with you Bigmutha, but come on. . Even uncorked and jetted, you have to admit it's no CR500, or KX500 for that matter.

Out of curiosity, I drag raced my '00 XR650R (uncorked/jetted/airbox drilled)

against my '04 KX500 (stock), and the KX ran off and left my XR like it was sitting still, seriously, not even close up to about 90mph.

NOTE: does not include XR650R's with 70+ hp engine mods.

L.L.

'00 XR650R

'04 KX500

'05 DR650SE

I agree with you, the XR650R is no CR500. One is Black...... the other White. :)

Yeah, I agree with you Bigmutha, but come on. . Even uncorked and jetted, you have to admit it's no CR500, or KX500 for that matter.

Out of curiosity, I drag raced my '00 XR650R (uncorked/jetted/airbox drilled)

against my '04 KX500 (stock), and the KX ran off and left my XR like it was sitting still, seriously, not even close up to about 90mph.

NOTE: does not include XR650R's with 70+ hp engine mods.

L.L.

'00 XR650R

'04 KX500

'05 DR650SE

I have my 680cc BRP set up at 72bhp (at the crank) that being 58hp at the rear wheel and it still is not no KX500! yes, it's a lot closer then a stock BRP and close to being able to beat a CR500 but, a fresh KX500 that is setup with carbon fiber reads, pipe, filter and jetted.....no way :) If dragging on slippery hard pack I might be able to take out :D

I wonder if they will bring back my RM370? :D

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Ahhhhhh....... the good ole days. :)

God bless my 650. :)

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Yep, the XR650R is no 500 two stroke. The XR's power is actually usable and the rear tire hooks up. Sure, the CR/KX are fast in sand and groomed motocross tracks. For off road riding where mud, roots and rocks are the norm, I will take the XR's abundant usable power!

Ditto to what Salty said. My buddy rides a CR500 and it rips. I've actually dragged him and we were head to head until my cc's carried me higher in the mph range.

Hey Max Power .....what a great picture at the bottom of your post!!!!(I like doing stand up wheelies too...as sit down ones hurt my back...when I fall off!!)

You guys are right its not as potent as my CR500, but it is pretty close. I have also seen these XR's lay waste on the mighty two stroke 500's. At a recent national in lucerne valley ca. I seen Childress' XR 650 flat out beat Destry Abbotts KX500 in the bomb run. They both got off the line evenly and had a awesome race to the end of the bomb. I love my 500 and the KX also. I previously rode KX's before going to the CR. Now my kids are riding and it's slow going so the XR is perfect for my needs. And the power it has is sooo useable. I like the thrill of my 500, but I am really loving this BRP. By the way, who wants to buy a super clean CR500?

First thing is to get the stock oil out of the forks. That stuff is funky!

that is puting it lightly lol, when suspensions by doug redid mine i was there helping him and that stuff looks horrible. yuck.

By the way, who wants to buy a super clean CR500?

you have a pm bud welcome to the brotherhood as ringkingpen stated

Oh I agree with you guys, I'm not saying a KX500 or CR500 is actually easy or practical to ride, I prefer the 650R any day. :)

Oh I agree with you guys, I'm not saying a KX500 or CR500 is actually easy or practical to ride, I prefer the 650R any day. :)

I agree

Some number for fun:

KX500 weighs 220 pounds dry. Delivers 65bhp @the crank and 54hp to the ground. With reads, pipe, air filter some claim 70bhp, maybe with porting. That would be 56hp to the ground.

XR650R weighs 277 pounds dry. Delivers 55bhp @ the crank and 44hp to the rear wheel. Header, muffler, air filter, pumper carburetor 60bhp and about 48hp to the rear wheel. Torque would be at 41ftp. HRC Kit is 64bhp and 51.4hp to the ground.

XR680R weighs about 280 pounds dry. Delivers 72bhp @ the crank and 58hp to the ground. 47ftp Torque.

Heck- they are all better than my 82 yz490, but that muther rips too(once the rear wheel stops spinning, if you have any lugs left...)

I had an 82 yz490 also, one of the few bikes to have a nifty four speed gearbox with a top end of 95mph. Honda made for a year a cr450 with a three speed gearbox. eeeeekkkkkk.

Yup three speed. probly wont see that concept coming back around anytime soon...

This sure make me miss vintage raceing at Carlsbad Grand Prix.... damn developers

Mike

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