okay - need some clarification. I have heard the XR650L reffered to as the BRP (Big Red Pig) due to it's weight. Yet I also hear that in some threads in reference to what I think is the high zoot - alloff raod XR650R (water cooled). These are two distinctly different bikes. The "R" version being obviously made for competetion etc, where as the XR "L" is a dual sport, that can of course be highly modified etc, but would never be an "R". Why the aruguments on such two completely different bikes. To me you might as well drag in a CRF450R or X into the foray... The XR650L is as Dave said - to me the best bike in the world for the type of riding I do. More power than I could ever use (even in the stock configuration) rock solid Honda bulletproof reliability based upon tried and true technology. Great suspension, brakes... I just love it! and I have been on Honda dualsports since thier inception.