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Oil Change frequency?

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What do people consider the best frequency for changing oil mines only had fresh oil once since new once at 150 miles oil and filter and its now done 560 miles total

how often do people change theirs?

James

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there are some very good articals onthis subject if you do a search.using regular oil,not the sinthetic kind i go about 800 miles.

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Every 1000kms...(621miles!!)....although if mostly road work I`d consider letting it go to 1500kms.....todays oil will I think perservere that distance either semi or fully synthe..........

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Refreshing to read an oil change thread and not become overly paranoid about life, the universe and everything as all the guys in the YZFCRFDRZKTM etc. forums are.

No metal flakes.

No voodoo oil filter concerns.

No voodoo oil preferences.

Real simple.

It's an XR!

DAMMIT Honda , give us our XRs back. :)

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I change mine after every race, ussually around 100 miles, with about 300 put on the bike between races. I figure it is cheap and allways good to see the condition of the oil. I also get free filters from the sponser so i gues i'm spoiled and pass it on to the pig!!!

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Every 3 hundred miles and change the filter every other time.

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On a new angine the oil should be changed every 100 mile for the first 500 miles. The I change it the first of every month when I am riding or before and after every big group weekend ride or race. 300 miles and it is way dirty. It takes 3000 miles on my new truck to l;ook like the oil out of my bike in 300.

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yeah i searched!

300, 600, 1000 miles?? WHY?

i'm commuting roughly 300 miles/week, 80% highway @ 75mph, 20% singletrack sand/dust/dirt on my '02 XRL.

i'm at 1000 miles since the last change (8000 total on the odo) and the oil is just starting to change to a darker tint than it was new.

why on earth would it need changed every 300 miles? thats once a week or more!!

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Which bike? The XR650L calls for oil changes every 2,000 miles. Every 1,000 miles seems perfectly sufficient. Any more is overkill, IMO.

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Why is it recommended to change the oil twice as often as the factory recommends? Obviously it won't hurt anything, but what do you really gain? Not likely anything if you use oil that has any semblance of quality and the majority of modern oils do. The only person in this forum I can recall that actually had an oil analysis done on 1000mi oil got results back that said it could have been run to 2000mi without problem:

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=680132

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=680177

It stands to reason that Honda knew what they were doing when they printed the manual saying to change the oil every 2000mi.

On a side note, I think it's ironic that so many people balk at very frequent drain intervals while figuring that extended drain intervals recommended by the manufacturer must be too long. :)

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Why is it recommended to change the oil twice as often as the factory recommends? Obviously it won't hurt anything, but what do you really gain? Not likely anything if you use oil that has any semblance of quality and the majority of modern oils do. The only person in this forum I can recall that actually had an oil analysis done on 1000mi oil got results back that said it could have been run to 2000mi without problem:

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=680132

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=680177

It stands to reason that Honda knew what they were doing when they printed the manual saying to change the oil every 2000mi.

On a side note, I think it's ironic that so many people balk at very frequent drain intervals while figuring that extended drain intervals recommended by the manufacturer must be too long. :)

I don't personally believe that manufacturers are always looking out for the best interests of the individual purchasing their product. If they build a motorcycle or car that lasts forever, then some customers would never buy another. It's in their financial interests for them to wear out, and going too long between oil changes is a good way to accelerate wear.

Furthermore, oil needs to be changed more frequently in severe service situations, and I consider my riding to be severe service, especially during the extreme heat of the summer, which is why I change it at 1000. Different oils last different lengths of time, and I am using regular old dino oil, not synthetic. If I was running synthetic, I would go 2,000 minimum.

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Another thing to consider about "recommended" oil changes. Honda recommends changing the XR600R oil every 1000 miles. Why is it half the frequency of the 650L? Is that because of my aforementioned severe service? I'd guess so, considering there's not a whole lot of difference between the two motors. Cruising around on country roads, and screaming up dirt hills are two entirely different situations. I'd be willing to bet that Honda stretched out the oil change on the L to cut down on maintenance costs for the consumer considering the fact that a "street bike" accumulates miles much more quickly than a dirt bike, and in a different manner. I ride my L almost exclusively off-road. I'm sticking with my 1000 mile interval no matter what the manual says. If I end up putting around on the slab, then I'll take that into consideration. One thing's for certain- after 1000 miles, the oil is black.

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. One thing's for certain- after 1000 miles, the oil is black.

see.. thats one thing i dont understand. i'm SCREAMING down the highway with 15/48 gearing @ 75-80mph 300+ miles a week, + another good 50+ HARD miles of offroad use a week.

after 1000 miles, the oil still looks almost brand new.

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see.. thats one thing i dont understand. i'm SCREAMING down the highway with 15/48 gearing @ 75-80mph 300+ miles a week, + another good 50+ HARD miles of offroad use a week.

after 1000 miles, the oil still looks almost brand new.

Then go the 2000. Sounds like that works fine for you.

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i use amsoil and going 2000 between changes last change oil still looked good i have a oil temp dipstick and never let it get over 250 deg.

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Apparently even GM knows most people change their oil too frequently...

http://www.amsoil.com/news/lubereport6-11-08%20.pdf

They're not the only ones:

http://www.amsoil.com/lit/lng_article/march_lng_new.pdf

http://www.amsoil.com/lit/lng_article/dec_03_mcfall.pdf

One thing's for certain- after 1000 miles, the oil is black.

That's not an indicator of how dirty the oil is.

http://www.ultimateoiltechnology.com/oilcolor.html

http://www.filtakleen-usa.com/faq/faq.htm

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