Now on to Front Tires

Alright guys I need to order a new front tire for the pig. I've tried the Dunlop 739(stunk), the Dunlop 756(grip was awesome but very squirrely on the road, knobbies flexed) and I just wasted a Pirelli MT-83 scorpion(DOT approved mind you) which had decent grip but every single side know is ripped in half, very weird. So I ask you my TT Pig friends, what should I go with. We've got it all up here from mud and sand to rock and pavement. I want something that hooks but also has "decent" road manners. Any opinions?? I just looked at the new Maxxis Maxxcross SI. Soft/Inter terrain. Very interesting combo, not often seen. Anyone use that??

I've used the Kenda Carlsbad front tire with success. It's a little wider than most front tires and wears well. Cheap.

:cry:

It is old school but the Metzler Unicross wears like iron and is actually street legal. I also have had good luck with the old Dunlop K490.

DO NOT buy the Kenda Trackmaster for the front. The rear was OK, and when it had worn down to about half the tread, I swear that it would wear no more. But the front--a horrible tire. The knobs are very tall which makes is flex and wander, and when the knobs inevitably wear unevenly, the front wheel hops like an unbalanced when on the back of a VW van with no shocks.

The Three front tires I like best.

For Grip it's the MT450 Pirelli ScorpionCross. DOT but, doesn't last long. If I need it to stick this is the tire!

For wear I like the Pirelli MT410 ScorpionCross but. It doesn't grip as well. DOT

For a little of both I like the Metzler M5C Front.

The only thing I can add is that the 739 front was terrible for me too (never again!). Old_Man_Time says his trials tires hook up well in a variety of terrain including pavement. He says they outperform the D606's everywhere including life, if what you need is a DOT tire. He posted where he has over 1,500 miles on his tires and the front still looks new, but they are pricey. I've read other posts here and there about people having good luck with these tires and one of the TT owners (Steve or Brian) did a review of one years ago and was surprised at how well it worked off road. The only thing that worries me from reading about them are sideall punctures due to a thinner sidewall, but I'm probably going to give them a shot someday after I've worn out all the tires I've stocked up on.

Here's some links to pictures of Old_Man_Time's bike with these tires...

http://216.165.194.66/ktmtalk/photo...nd_loop_er4.jpg

http://216.165.194.66/ktmtalk/photo...ers/ACF7A5A.jpg

http://216.165.194.66/ktmtalk/photo...rs/bluenred.jpg

http://216.165.194.66/ktmtalk/photo...ers/ACF7860.jpg

http://216.165.194.66/ktmtalk/photo...rs/carb_061.jpg

And here's the specifics he gave me about these tires...

Michelin X11 Trial Competition Front Tire

Order # Price........ Description......

(08042) $65.95 Michelin X11 Trail Competition 2.75X21 Tube Type Front Tire

(08062) $65.95 Michelin X11 Trial Competition 2.75X21 Tubeless Front Tire

Michelin X11 Trial Competition Rear Tire

Order # Price........ Description......

(08034) $106.95 Michelin X11 Trial Competition 4.00R18 Tube Type Rear Tire

(04796) $106.95 Michelin X11 Trial Competition 4.00R18 Tubeless Rear Tire

Here's a couple more threads I found on these tires from googling around.

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=796817#post796817

http://www.4strokes.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14337

Also, use the search here on TT to search for X11 and you'll find a ton of reading on them.

Thanks guys! Anyone else??

Qadsan, no good on the pics??

I might add that I have had a flat using the front Trials tire because I did not watch my air pressure and left too low in rocky conditions. They will flatten easier in my opinion. I still like them but keep an eye on the air pressure and consider the kind of hits its going to take on your outing.

I too have talked to others who noted they had more flats with them. Don't get me wrong I take them into really rocky stuff and have only had one front flat so far. It was a pinch flat.

Oh yeah, I have 2000+ miles on one of my trials front tires and still have not lost a single lug. But I have talked to others who did not like the front Trials tire though they love the rear. I am sold on both front and rear.

Kenda Carslbad, Michelin Desert.

For carcass strength its hard to beat the D606...you might not even realize you have a front flat. All are directional tires...dont put them on backwards.

Its so hard to say really-

wear, strength, price, hook up on what stuff, availability, DOT, FIM, riders style, weight, etc..--lots to consider...and everyone is different.

I've heard good about the Pirelli MT18HD, I'm going to give one a try next. I don't need a DOT tire and ride lots of rocky areas.

Pirelli mt-18 hd. The HD is D.O.T. approved too.

"Pirelli mt-18 hd. The HD is D.O.T. approved too."....even better :cry:

Yep, the MT18HD is the best 650 front tire you can get.

The (08042) $65.95 Michelin X11 Trail Competition 2.75X21 Tube Type Front Tire looks way different from any off road tire I have seen! The top of the tire is flat and there is no tread on the side. How can it hold in a corner? It is DOT?

The Pirelli MT410 ScorpionCross looks like a good compromise tire for some on road and more use off road, ie it looks like a knobby off road. This one is also DOT?

I am asking ... trying to get a good DOT tire that is better off road than on.

Trials tires are great for dry rocky technical terrain, but they are absolutley awful in Tx gumbo type mud. From experience, the trials tires are not very forgiving on pavement. Knobbies will let you know when you're reaching the limit, trials tires tend to just let go.

I run the MT-21. Pretty solid on both pavement and dirt, I can't say about mud because there just isn't a lot of it out here. It's holding up pretty well so far on lifespan, think I have about 1200 on it right now.

+1 on the MT21 90/90 21 little squirly new on slab, most tires are. I ride alot of rock, mud and sand no problems 2500 on last one no flats. xr650l I weigh about 220.

Trials tires are great for dry rocky technical terrain, but they are absolutley awful in Tx gumbo type mud. From experience, the trials tires are not very forgiving on pavement. Knobbies will let you know when you're reaching the limit, trials tires tend to just let go.

Jan 05 thread, im sure those users are long gone LOL LT1 how did you dig this retro thread up??? LOL

Well, since this thread will be on top for a bit...

Let the record show now that the Mt18HD is no longer made, the XCMH that replaces it is my new favorite front tire.

The XCMH rear works great, only about 150 miles on it so far so I can't speak to longevity yet.

Dave

i've had good luck with kenda 270 and dunlop 606

Jan 05 thread, im sure those users are long gone LOL LT1 how did you dig this retro thread up??? LOL

Sorry about that, I picked up an even bigger pig than my XRR and was looking for a very HD front tire. I did not think to look at the date.

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