Shifting --answers please

I'm having trouble shifting when standing.I have always used the clutch to shift but it was suggested to me to"let off the throttle a bit and nudge the shifter" and it would be ok. Will this technique damage any thing ,long term or short term.It would make it easier on my standing shifting techniques,but if it is gonna mess things up ,I'm open to any suggestions to help me. Oh yeah its a 2004 yz450f.Used exclusively in the desert so speeds are pretty good.

I suggest shifting with the clutch....I am not positive about any problems that may arise from this method of shifting :cry: , but I just dont like the idea. Do what you feel comfortable with, I would suggest using the clutch.... Don't think its to hard to use, and doesn't take much time to use it... My .02! :cry:

p.s. are you having a problem with the position of the shifter? if so, loosen the bolt on the shifter and move it up or down until it feels more comfortable for you. Thats what I did, and I was much more at home! :cry:

As long as you aren't jamming the gears when you shift without the clutch, there won't be any harm. I hardly use the clutch to shift when I'm on the track, and even when I'm on my FZ-1 at highway speeds. Just don't force it.

As long as you aren't jamming the gears when you shift without the clutch, there won't be any harm. I hardly use the clutch to shift when I'm on the track, and even when I'm on my FZ-1 at highway speeds. Just don't force it.
Absolutely right. Just roll the throttle back a bit and make a smooth, quick shift (don't slide it in slow, flick it). As long as you don't hear a grinding sound you're fine.

And for those of you who think that's brutal, you would have loved to see the CZ team on the starting line back in the day when MX first came to the 'States. Back then, you were required to start with your left hand on your head. When the flag dropped, you reached for the clutch, threw it gear and went. Teammates Joel Robert and Roger DeCoster used to bypass using the clutch altogether and simply stomp the thing into second at 6 grand as soon as they could reach the bar! :cry:

But don't try this at home!

I use both Methods. I was completely prone to using nothing but the clutch and that was the way I learned to ride. After riding for the last year, picking up tips and tricks, most of the time I refrain from using the clutch on the straights and prior to entering the turns, through the turns and tight spots I use the clutch or feather the clutch in the coners. I probably have more shavings and wear in my oil than someone who uses the clutch consistantly, but I change my oil every 2 rides to keep it fresh and out of the engine... I think it comes down to rider preference and what makes you feel more comfortable on the bike.

I agree with grayracer, as long as you're not grinding, you should be fine (even though I generally use the clutch out of habit).

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