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John_Lorenz

News reagrding Land closures in Calif

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Here is an excerpt from a email coraspondance with Bill Dart at Blue Ribbon coalition. Ya need to become a member @ http://www.sharetrails.org

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Bill

Thanks for all your help I really appreciate it. I will be joining the coalition today and encouraging others to do so themselvs.

Again thanks, this sheds light on a dark subject.

-----Original Message-----

From: Bill Dart [mailto:brbill_d@sharetrails.org]

Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:16 AM

To: John Lorenz

Subject: RE: Need help on some info regarding a rumored reversal of the

Ca supreme court on land closure

John

Senator Barbara Boxer has introduced a bill to designate 2.5 million acres

of Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management lands as Wilderness. This

bill is opposed by Blue Ribbon, and many other recreation, access, and

multiple use groups. Wilderness designation would close those lands to all

motorized and mechanized uses (Mtn Bikes), but would leave them open to

hiking and horseback use. ASdditionally, these lands would be off-limits to

most forest management practices, such as fuel reduction and thinning

projects to improve forest health anf reduce the risk of catastrophic

wildfire.

Fortunately, this bill has no chance of passage this year, but we still need

to generate strong oppostion to more Wilderness designations.

The Blue Ribbon Coaltion is working to promote another land management

designation called Back Country Recreation Area. We can agree that some

lands need to be protected from development or landscape altering

activities, but we know this can be done without going too far with a formal

Wilderness designation. Back Country would allow mtn bikes and trail bikes

and snowmobiles, as well as 4 wheel drive vehicles, and there would be

options for forest management other than "Let it Burn", which is about all

they can do in Wilderness areas.

You can get more information on Back Country at the Blue Ribbon web site,

www.sharetrails.org

Let me know if you still have questions

Bill Dart, Public Lands Director

Blue Ribbon Coalition

208-237-1008, ex 102

Fax 208-237-9424

-----Original Message-----

From: John Lorenz

Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 9:01 PM

To: 'Bill Dart '

Subject: RE: Need help on some info regarding a rumored reversal of the

Ca supreme court on land closure

Bill

Sorry maybe I am not making it clear,

I am refering to the proposed Closure of 170+ parks that are now open to the

public, but will be designated as wilderness in California. This would

infact be any motorized, hicking, biking and horse travel as I am aware I

guess.

The rumer was this was now post poned until an economic impact study was

done on both sides.

Hope that helps

John Lorenz

-----Original Message-----

From: Bill Dart

To: John Lorenz

Sent: 7/8/02 4:27 PM

Subject: RE: Need help on some info regarding a rumored reversal of the Ca

supreme court on land closure

John

I was referring to a settlement agreement by the National park Service

to

develop plans and regulations regarding personal water craft within

national

parks. There are actually 2 deadlines. On April 22, several parks

closed

to PWC's, pending completion of management plans for these parks. In

California, for example, Whiskeytown National Recreation Area was closed

to

PWC;s on April 22, since no management plan was in place. Similarly,

Lake

Powell is engaged in a planning process right now, but will not be able

to

complete the plan prior to September 15, the deadline for 11 national

park

units. Each individual National Park unit either has a plan in place

today,

or is in the process of completing a plan.

Since there are new technology, low emission, PWC's on the market today,

with more coming out soon, plans to eliminate PWC's have been

complicated.

If they are quiet and clean, it is harder to single them out for

restrictions.

I am still not sure if the PWC issues are what you are concerned with,

but I

don't know of any other sweeping plans to restrict/eliminate motorized

recreation in California

Have I answered your questions? If not, give me more specifics about

the

issue.

Bill Dart, Public Lands Director

Blue Ribbon Coalition

208-237-1008, ex 102

Fax 208-237-9424

--Original Message-----

From: John Lorenz Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:19 AM

To: 'Bill Dart'

Subject: RE: Need help on some info regarding a rumored reversal of the

Ca supreme court on land closure

Bill

Thanks for your reply, it was rumored that the proposed closures in

California, was postponed for a economical reports, I am not sure if it

was

what you refer to as the PWC Ban.

Can you explain the PWC plan and were it stands now?

Or do you have any information on the proposed closures as to date?

Thanks

John Lorenz

-----Original Message-----

From: Bill Dart [mailto:brbill_d@sharetrails.org]

Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:46 AM

To: JohnsMail

Subject: Re: Need help on some info regarding a rumored reversal of the

Ca supreme court on land closure

John

This is Bill Dart replying to your message, as Adena Cook just retired,

and

I am replacing her as the Blur Ribbon Public Lands Director.

I am not clear exactly what issue you are referring to-possibly the PWC

ban

in National Parks that has been implemented in park untis that have not

completed their management plans. I am not aware of a stay of the

proposed

closures.

Let me know if the PWC ban is your questions, or more info if it is not.

Bill Dart, Public Lands Director

BlueRibbon Coalition

Phone: 208-237-1008, ex 102

Fax: 208-237-9424

----- Original Message -----

From: "JohnsMail" To: <bradena@sharetrails.org>

Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 7:32 PM

Subject: Need help on some info regarding a rumored reversal of the Ca

supreme court on land closure

> FYI

>

> Can you collaborate a roomer that the California or US supreme court

has

> stayed in favor of the not closure until further Specific impact req.

are

> meet?

>

> It is rumored that the Ca, and or US supreme court over turned or

stayed

the

> petition for Calf land closers.

>

> Can this be accredited

>

> John Lorenz

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Could not have said it better, 20 bucks is a small price to pay for protecting you riding rights.

You ask yourself what can I do?

This is it

for thse of you who ride the dunes in SoCal

here is a guy who is trying to keep the dunes open.

http://www.americansandassociation.org/

Just another point, I read alot of flak sometimes in the threads here All forums. That people get upset when they hear of closures, sound chk, and other things that simply go against our sport. Its not just California thi shappens.

The best thing to do is to fight back by joining a group local or national that will voice your opinion. The NRA did not become as big with out its members......

[ July 09, 2002: Message edited by: E.G.O.**** ]

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Done. Plus an extra $25 contribution.

Come on guys, It's not that much......

There's power in numbers!

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recon that forest service guy can do like they do in Colorado and burn it down themselves.oldasdirt

:):D:D

I to have recently joined BRC.

[ July 10, 2002: Message edited by: oldasdirt ]

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Done. I sent them an extra 25 bucks too. Start steppin it up out there. The damn Nazi party is having its will with you.

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