Cam timing

Did you put those black pen marks on the chain and gears before you pulled it apart?

Have you played with the timing or are you doing shims?

The gear timing marks look pretty right but they could be totally out from the crank. You need to make sure you are at top dead center then line the cams up.

I am, right on the I next to the H

I put those marks on there for sorta a marking point, so I dont go back on the same place twice. I had the head off to put in new intake valves.

there is no I, there is no H. There is a T, which stands for Top, as

in Top Dead Center. This is where you line your cams up. There is also an F, on most bikes, which stands for Fire, which is where the spark plug fires and is always after TDC.

I saw another post on this somewhere else where you said that the exhaust cam spins ok but not the inlet.

I dont pretend to be an expert on this but i can work through it step by step.

If you pull the plug and make sure that the piston is definately well clear of the valves will the inlet cam spin freely. By my reasoning i would have to say that there is some valve piston contact going on. If this is the case the cam will spin fine and you have a timing issue. If not then you will probly have to pull that cam and make sure the valves can be compressed by hand, did you replace valve guides?

There is also an F, on most bikes, which stands for Fire, which is where the spark plug fires and is always after TDC.

your motor must run backwards then............... :excuseme:it is always before top dead center except on some euro cars where it fires at top dead center, but pretty rare :thumbsup:

I pulled the intake cam off, I can push the center intake valve down with my fingers, but the outside two will not push down with my weak thumbs on them. Could they just be a little stuck from being brand new? I am NOT taking the head off again on this thing.

I am doing this with the spark plug out by the way, and rotating the engine from the crank.

And yes, it says in the manual time to the I on the crankshaft.

There is also an F, on most bikes, which stands for Fire, which is where the spark plug fires and is always after TDC.

your motor must run backwards then............... :excuseme:it is always before top dead center except on some euro cars where it fires at top dead center, but pretty rare :thumbsup:

Right, right... I got turned around I guess...I'm sure it had something to do with all the beer yesterday...lol

sorry for the misinfo

Not to be the devils advocate or anything... but after the initial damage, did you have the head inspected properly (preferably by a machine shop) or did you just buy some new valves and put it back together?

There was no head damage. I'm leading to belive that we put the valve springs on upside down. Oh well, I just noticed it said in the manual, "insert valve springs with larger pitch facing up."

Off comes the head.

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