Sorry for the cross post, but I wanted the opinions of both groups of riders. I have also seen a ton of posts like this, but not between a wr250f and a yz450f. Ok, I know these two bikes are like apples to oranges, but I have to choose between them. I wanted a WR450f but the dealer I am talking to can't get one until after the new year. However, he has a YZ450 and a WR250 that he will give me an unbelievable price on so I'm probably going to choose one of them. My history, you're gonna laugh. I haven't been on a dirt bike in like 15 years. I have been riding on the street though, and recently sold my 130rwhp FZ1 (~10.25 @ ~ 125mph). I developed quite a need for speed on that bike and decided to sell it while I was still in one piece and go back to the dirt. As you can guess, I'm looking for a fast bike that I can satisfy my adrenaline rush requirements on. That's why I was looking at a 450F. The reason I decided on the WR was the lower 1 st gear and the 5th gear, the kickstand, and the estart. I know I could add the estart and the kickstand, but the tranny will stay the same. My riding will be in sand pits and trail riding, and maybe after I get comfortable some mild motocross. I am also going to learn to wheelie better. I was so terrified to do it on the street and now I want to learn it. The bike must have ample power to do that easily. The dealer says that I won't notice the lack of a low 1st gear because the bike has the power to pull it. He also says the wr250F is pretty fast too. And the 250F is a WR and has the extra features I wanted, but I'm sure I would like the YZ450F too. In case you're wondering, yes, the prices are just that good and I like the dealer. He has responded to about 20 of my emails the same day and called me about 3 different times. I'd really like to buy from him, and I'd end up getting the bike for me and a TT125L for my wife cheaper than I could get just the Wr450F locally. I guess the deciding factor is the power level of the WR250F. I'm just afraid that after the sportbike and the speed addiction I have developed I'll grow bored with the 250... I'm buying tomorrow afternoon so quick replies would be appreciated.