Never thought i would do this, but yamaha is giving away the farm on these right now. 04 450's are going for around $5000, mine was $5300 OTD here in SoCAL Didn't even leave the dealer without a new triple clamp and bars. Is it just me or does yamaha have the worst bar set up out of everyone? I figured that since the big changes on the 05' are new "renthal bars" i would rather save $1500 bucks and go with an 04. I just hope this handles half as well as my Honda did. The power doesn't seem to be overwhelming like the mags say, it's actually really nice! I can't wait to blow up a berm or two @ Elsinore this Friday!!!!