03 yamaha or honda?

i have a 2001 426 now but have rode the 450 honda and liked the difference in weight..it also made pretty good power...do any of u guy know what yamaha is doin to the 426 for 03? i would like to know.....is it goin to be a 450 or weigh less..have any of u heard ne thing yet?

[ May 08, 2002: Message edited by: stroker pro 383 ]

I heard the yz450 is already in the works. It kind of makes me wish I waited a couple of months before I bought this bike. But, this bike has such huge cajones already, I don't think I need much more power.

You better get on the list now, or you wont get one! Remember 2 years ago when everyone wanted a 250f but they were all sold out for 6 months! Well the same thing will happen when Yamaha sweeps the floor of that thing called the CR450 LOL I cant wait until June, when Yammie releases details! Later,

Garrett

Hummmm how does,

450cc

All new frame

All new motor

E-start

all new plastic

& 3 lbs less than the CRF

Sound

:)

Hey Oldtimer.......

aren't you forgeting the<font color=blue><h3> BOLD</h3> new grafix??????? :)

[ May 08, 2002: Message edited by: THUMPIN' ROCK HUCKER ]

"3 lbs less than the CRF "

That would be a revolution for Yamaha. With the exception of the yz125, all of Yamahas bikes are almost 10% heavier than their Honda counterparts. This includes the street bikes.

Another competitor that you should be looking at is the KTM 450. This baby will be light and easy to start (relative to the 426).

I am glad that KTM will come out with another light easy-to-start 450. Maybe then Yamaha might be forced to start an internal revolution. That would be great for all Moto customers. Then we would have three choices make.

[ May 09, 2002: Message edited by: yankee ]

News is that in June, Suzuki will be announcing both 250 and 450 four stroke crossers.

Take a look at www.motorcyclenews.com and look in the off road section. The way they write about the 03 YZF, it looks like being nowhere near as trick as everyone is expecting - just a capacity increase, that's all. Could be wrong though.

Andrew

01 426

PS - hello everyone - in case you hadn't gathered this is my first post. I'm also a Brit, so be gentle.

Speculation :D

Rumers :)

Inside Scoop :D

All this is great PR for yami, the CR in its own right is a good bike

It has problems (Normal First Run , First Year)

So did YZ's

the 03 yami---- Only time will tell here are the givins

1: has to be a 450 or above

2: has to be lighter then honda or dang close

3: has to be in the same price range or better

other then that Time will tell :D

True enough. Anyway, I don't know why I'm getting excited about '03 models - I can't even ride my '01 to its full potential yet (probably never will).....

Ditto Here :)

Buts a gas holding on isnt it

Originally posted by yankee:

"3 lbs less than the CRF "

Another competitor that you should be looking at is the KTM 450. This baby will be light and easy to start (relative to the 426).

I am glad that KTM will come out with another light easy-to-start 450.

[ May 09, 2002: Message edited by: yankee ]

The 450 rule will hurt KTM. What kept the KTM-520 in the hunt was their engine was 96cc "larger" if you stop to look at it the KTM-400 was only 26cc smaller and should have put out pretty much the same performance, but it didn't come close to the 426 or the older 400 for that matter. Bigger was always better in 4 strokes, but with the 450cc cap that doesn't apply anymore and a head to head matchup with 450 performance Yamaha will come out on top.

Four strokes up to 450cc are likely to be allowed to race with the 250 'stink pots' in GPs next year. So expect to see a load of 'conveniently-sized' 449cc 4-bangers emerging very soon.

What that will mean for 'open class' bikes like the 520 KTM, or Husaberg, is anyone's guess.

"a head to head matchup with 450 performance Yamaha will come out on top."

That is pretty arrogant and very yamaha spokesmanlike.

I do not care right now how the future KTM's will compare with the future Yammies. All I care is that there will be more manufacturers that make 450 thumpers. Maybe if KTM grabs a new share of the thumper market then all other makers will respond with even better thumpers. Thus benefiting the consumer. Right now I am very happy with my red thumper. :)

The KTM 400 wasnt ever set to oppose the YZ426. The 520 was. Hey its the way the rules were written. I bet ya this, the new KTM's will have quite a bit more punch in the 450, but its still gonna have a fairly wierd frame set up, at least thats my guess. I read on motonews.org that Yamaha was experimenting with a new casting technique and sealing technique that shoul allow them to make the engine cases and other cast parts 40% lighter and 10% stronger. If thats so, and yamaha acutally pays attention to the hardware selection to outfit the rest of the bike, you could see a 230lb YZ, but I wouldnt bet on it. Since honda sharpened up the rake on the CR450, its going to turn a hell of a lot better, and I thought it turned better than my bike anyway. The part that peaks my interest is the LACK of offical pre-issue hype.

What kept the KTM-520 in the hunt was their engine was 96cc "larger

For the record, it's 84cc, a 520 is actually 510.4cc.

KTM made their bike to produce a desired powerband, and in my opinion theirs is the best. While aiming for a specific powerband, they also got the easiest to start. That was due to a lower compression ratio - KTM could easily up the compression ratio, and "find" the missing horsepower.

With that said, it's a great time to be into MX, all of the bikes are pretty damn good.

Man this is just getting old

MotoJunkie is right it is a good time to be a thumper freak

Its also a good time to be breathing,

a good time to sober

a good time to be filty stinking rich

a good time to be a really really nice guy

a good time to make fun of cannondale :)

Ya its just a good time

what about ktm

Insignifacant Thumper

Ahhh Man now ya did it you mention ktm Now I am bummmed

OK I just got the exclusive picture fo rthe new 03

cannondales

03 Cannondales

EGO,

I liked the pic of the 03 Crapandfail....who in their right mind would sit their arse in front of that THING!

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