Suspension doesn't count because every bike will need the suspension adjusted to the rider and secondly reliability is the same if you don't treat the bike like shit and take care of it. And it's on the rider not the bike. If Honda was so shitty, why do they have more podium finishes in supercross? Because of the riders. Bike didn't a damn thing for them so your theory about the power being everything is a load of crap. And yeah I agree with you about it not mattering anyways... Especially since he's not a pro that's gonna even tap the full potential of either bikes. How old are you? Just asking because your answers imply someone either very young or very immature. You are defending Hondas as if your life or reputation depends on it. If you are not aware that Yamahas have a reputation for being more reliable and durable than all the other bikes, and their suspension far better straight out of the gate ( that means when you buy it, not when the gate drops) then you dont know much about bikes. Folloe that ip with a really ridiculous comment about supercross success being relevant to to the bike you are riding. The 09-12 Hondas were inferior compared to the 14-15 YZ, no question about it unless you just need to say different because you own a Honda. If you cant tell the difference yourself then either you dont want to acknowledge it or your just not good enough to feel it. I don't think it's latter, because even as a slow vet novice I can feel it.