New '16 WR450

Complexity is the enemy of reliability.

 

I will never ever consider a non-kickstart bike for serious offroad use.  I don't care about this "proper maintenance" crap about the e-start systems.  They still have problems.  Know how much maintenance a kickstarter needs?  A torque wrench and some silicone goop around it (or safety wire).  Once.

 

About the only thing the current REALLY YZ450F needs from the factory is a high output stator and maybe a 6th gear.  The rest is easy aftermarket stuff.

The kick starter is just removed and plugged

It should have a kick start.  I would not solely depend alone on e-start.

It should have a kick start.  I would not solely depend alone on e-start.

Once apon a time they used hand cranks to start cars.

Once apon a time they used hand cranks to start cars.

 

Alot more people drive cars than motos...

Just want it to be 50 state plateable...not holding my breath

Complexity is the enemy of reliability.

I will never ever consider a non-kickstart bike for serious offroad use. I don't care about this "proper maintenance" crap about the e-start systems. They still have problems. Know how much maintenance a kickstarter needs? A torque wrench and some silicone goop around it (or safety wire). Once.

About the only thing the current REALLY YZ450F needs from the factory is a high output stator and maybe a 6th gear. The rest is easy aftermarket stuff.

The MX bike doesn't really need a 6th gear. We want that in the 450FX enduro.

I meant for it to be a competent off road bike, minus easy aftermarket stuff.

Just want it to be 50 state plateable...not holding my breath

in Australia WR450F come street legal from factory. Somehow in north American, someone want to make WR450F a hassle to get plated.

I'm really curious as to how the 16 will feel compared to the 12-15. I'd suspect weight would be similar.

While I never bought one of the 12-15, I still think they are really cool.

I'm really curious as to how the 16 will feel compared to the 12-15. I'd suspect weight would be similar.

While I never bought one of the 12-15, I still think they are really cool.

They feel greatly different...

They feel greatly different...

in what way?

in what way?

The 2012 WR450 (completely stripped of everything of excess weight) I raced felt front end heavy and heavy decompression braking. The `15 YZ450F I have feels very front end light and overall feels lighter while in motion. Two different feeling bikes. If a new WR450 is based off the newest YZF chassis, I think it will be an amazing bike...

as long as the WR also has a 6-speed g/b, which I would expect,

as the WR250 has one too,

 

would be weird if they didnt fitted that,

and I'd expect it would be (slightly) heavier, duo to (bigger) battery and starter.. so I say, plus 5 kgs.

 

and preferred battery is a regular lead battery,

the YZ injection system seems to dislike the lithium ion power surges with low battery...

 

Looking forward to the first WR 2016 pictures!! :banana: :banana:

In the mean time, I will look to replace my light bike.

Up until 2 years ago I rode 2 strokes only.  I then bought an '06 WR450.  The WR is an awesome do it all machine that always runs.  I use it often.  Even though the WR is a good machine, I missed the instant snap of the 2 strokes when riding single track.  I had had enough of the constant 2 stroke tuning (most are just in denial, but the truth is that it takes a lot of work to keep a 2 stroke running perfectly).  This led me to thinking about the new YZ250fx.  I went to a dealer to look at one, and ended up leaving with a new '14 Husky FC250.  The main difference was that I got the Husky (white KTM) for $1000 less OTD.  The little 250f is really good in the woods.  It has nearly the same snap as the 2 stroke, yet it revs to the moon.  I'm sure that the 250fx is as good or better.  A modern 250f with a good efi system is going to be tough to beat in the single track...  For comparison purposes (I was afraid the 250F wouldn't have much top speed) the FC250 tops out at 71 mph, and the WR at 82 per my GPS.

Edited by letitsnow

Up until 2 years ago I rode 2 strokes only.  I then bought an '06 WR450.  The WR is an awesome do it all machine that always runs.  I use it often.  Even though the WR is a good machine, I missed the instant snap of the 2 strokes when riding single track.  I had had enough of the constant 2 stroke tuning (most are just in denial, but the truth is that it takes a lot of work to keep a 2 stroke running perfectly).  This led me to thinking about the new YZ250fx.  I went to a dealer to look at one, and ended up leaving with a new '14 Husky FC250.  The main difference was that I got the Husky (white KTM) for $1000 less OTD.  The little 250f is really good in the woods.  It has nearly the same snap as the 2 stroke, yet it revs to the moon.  I'm sure that the 250fx is as good or better.  A modern 250f with a good efi system is going to be tough to beat in the single track...  For comparison purposes (I was afraid the 250F wouldn't have much top speed) the FC250 tops out at 71 mph, and the WR at 82 per my GPS.

 

 

How much does your new FC250 weigh w/ gas ready to ride?

Edited by AtomicGeo

How much does your new FC250 weigh w/ gas ready to ride?

And do it get hot when riding slow? Do it got a fan or ability to add one? $1K less OTD is a smart move.

 

WE HAVE LIFT OFF!

 

2015_MXGP_YZ450FM_003_zps61bbz2k7.jpg

 

Engine

  • Model:
  • YZ450F
  • Engine type:
  • liquid-cooled, 4-stroke, DOHC, 4-valves
  • Displacement:
  • 449,7 cc
  • Bore x stroke:
  • 97.0 mm x 60,6 mm
  • Compression ratio:
  • 12.5 : 1
  • Lubrication system:
  • Wet sump
  • Clutch type:
  • Wet, Multiple Disc
  • Fuel system:
  • Fuel Injection
  • Ignition system:
  • TCI
  • Starter system:
  • Electric   <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
  • Transmission system:
  • Constant Mesh, 5-speed
  • Final transmission:
  • Chain

 

Forgive me for being ignorant but who's bike is this? I want to research it further. I'm guessing somone's in GNCC

That is from the Yamaha world site

It has a MXGP sticker, so it is a Western Europe track bike.

It also has a hand-welded swingarm, so it is a factory bike.

 

http://www.yamaha-racing.com/Racing/mxgp/bike/#

Edited by Kah Ran Nee

what is the advantage of the engine tilted rearwards vs forward?

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