Just wanted to say, I was not bashing the L. If your the type that e-start is a significant consideration, then it may be just what you need. I'm 44 & wouldn't mind the e- start, but I would not trade the performance or handling advantages of the R for it. I ride about 50% street, goofing off on back roads after work or running errands, just to get in some seat time between weekend outings. Either bike can make you feel like a kid with his first mini bike , but if you & a bud go play, you'll want to be the one on the R Same here, I don't meant to bash the R, but I wish it's owners would quit putting down my beloved L. To own one is to love one. The grin factor on this bike is huge. Anyway, it's real competition is the DR650 and KLR 650, not it's faster sibling. And against those bikes, it more than hold's it's own.