revloc vs z-start
Posted November 12, 2003 - 05:50 AM
Most of my riding is on single-track in tight trees with a tiny bit of mx (twice or three times a season at the club's track).
Cost is really not an issue if the revloc is the better unit. I also can't see why on the fly stall speed adjustability would be all that important.
Posted November 12, 2003 - 08:54 AM
I bought mine in june 2003 for $850 (instead of $1000)
They said new price drop , not sure if the web site lists this.
The revloc install is easier.
The only down side to an autoclutch is
on slow downhill/bulldog trails, It wont allow
you to kill the motor, leave it in gear and use
the clutch as a rear brake.
The revloc lets me run circles around the 2 strokes on the "c" rider log jams in enduros where the trail is technical.
I would buy the rear brake lever if they made one for my wr450.
Since I don't have on-the-fly adjustability I'm not sure
how often I would use it. Sometimes I turn up the idle
to keep the clutch engaged, depends on the terrain and How tired I am
Posted November 12, 2003 - 10:17 AM
From what I have been able to gather so far is that the operating principals are similar between the two products but I would prefer to go with the unit that is less maintenance intensive since I still remember the Auto Huskies.
Posted November 12, 2003 - 12:12 PM
$850???? I thought auto clutches went for about $300-400. Am I that far off??
By the way, how does the autoclutch work on MX tracks?
Posted November 12, 2003 - 01:06 PM
AS mentioned above, do a search for z start in the crf450 forum for more threads. Good luck.
Posted November 12, 2003 - 03:34 PM
No bike needs an autoclutch; it's merely an aftermarket item of personal preference.
The WR450 really does not need an auto clutch. But if you put one on dont let the bike go back down a hill climb you did not make. No rear wheel lock up will occur if you bail and the bike can tumble to a 4 wheeler type destruction.
There are autoclutch owners/users in this forum who have them on their WR's, I believe that they would agree with what I just said.
Posted November 12, 2003 - 03:41 PM
An auto clutch wood be nice going over rocks and logs.
Posted November 13, 2003 - 12:40 AM
Posted November 13, 2003 - 12:57 AM
Posted November 13, 2003 - 03:52 AM
I learned this the hard way.
With your stock clutch, it never really sends all of the engine power to the transmission. This is because it always slips alittle. And landing from a big jump, this slipping doesn't overload the transmission in most cases. With an auto-clutch, it uses centrifigual(?) force to engage the clutch pack, hence no slippage the faster the engine is spinning. With no slippage, upon landing from the jump, you have 100% traction, and 100% engine load thru the clutch system into the tranny. Yamaha's third gear can't take it. Of course, like I said, you can fine tune the auto-clutches to slip in these circumstances, but it wouldn't be very beneficial anyhow. I think a normal clutch is alot better for MX. At least, this is my opinion. Maniac
P.S. Rev-Loc also stands behind there product extremely well. Yes, I had tranny problems from using there product. But this was MY fault. I was not using their product in its intended enviroment. And when I called up Rev-Loc to ask them about my unique transmission problems, they were extremely helpful, and offered to get me the parts at cost. I do not feel as if this problem was their fault, but I did wish they would have had something in their installation mentioning about possible problems using this for MX, as this would have saved me from blowing my second transmission. Maniac
Posted November 13, 2003 - 07:57 AM
Your thoughts/input ?
Posted November 13, 2003 - 10:34 PM
Posted November 14, 2003 - 06:50 AM
Do a search for z-start in the CRF450 forum. There are many guys there that race with z-starts.
Interesting stuff... anyone else have experience with autoclutches and MX???
Posted November 20, 2003 - 05:02 AM
Posted November 20, 2003 - 08:40 AM
Posted November 20, 2003 - 09:36 AM
Posted November 20, 2003 - 03:14 PM
Willy, I think you will like your z-start, a lot! Feel free to p.m. me if you have any questions about it.