Dungey needs to work on passing, he was way faster than Alessi and couldn't get by. There is no way Villopoto would stay behind Alessi like Dungey did in moto 1.

mxr300ex, on 21 July 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

Agree.MA did a good job of blocking and that's part of racing.That alone is how Alessi beat Dungy in my opinion.

Alan48, on 21 July 2012 - 10:39 PM, said:

When RD fell I thought it was over then he's right on his ass again

I never saw Alessi look back but he knew where Ryan was the whole moto

I have seen SX tracks that are all single  file, no passing options, and even though there were two lines around the track  tis weekend they all seemed to intersect  and cross on the exit of the turns. Anyone could see MA did a good job hold off RD but the fact remains RD is still a lot faster around the track.

Edited by ncc, 22 July 2012 - 07:25 AM.

meyermetal, on 21 July 2012 - 08:22 PM, said:

RD might have looked at it differently than we did, here he is racing the entire moto no tear-offs , behind a guy that spends more time crisscrossing the track than going forward, on a track the turned out to be one lined, (two lines entering one exiting). RD was taking chances to pass in his normal clean style, and MA was going for broke, I don't blame MA as I sometimes ride a wide bike when I need to, But I am sure after the crash and close calls ,plus all the energy expended , RD might not want to have a Kumbayah moment and just wanted to get back to the truck. I think MA responses were much more theatrical and he should have went back to his own glory in the win, because I am guessing there is still a dry spell in his future.

ncc, on 22 July 2012 - 07:24 AM, said:

Riders the caliber of Dungey, Stewart, Reed, and Villopoto create their own passing lanes. Thats the one thing Dungey lacks in compared to the other 3. Dungey has the speed of the other 3, sometimes even faster, but a lack of agresion could cost him wins. It cost him one yesterday and could cost him a lot more with how deep the 450 class will be next year.

mxr300ex, on 22 July 2012 - 08:13 AM, said:

That is Dungey's Achilles heel ,James has the crashes, Reed has the fast one day not so much the next ,Villopoto  can run fast ,but seems injury prone. Next year will be a new game for all the current 450 riders.

Edited by ncc, 22 July 2012 - 08:37 AM.

ncc, on 22 July 2012 - 08:36 AM, said:

Seems like a bad achilles heel to have but then again it's won him 3 championships in the 450's.

The program seems to be working.

2008 Washougal 250 winner - Ryan Dungey
2009 Washougal 250 winner - Ryan Dungey
2010 Washougal 450 winner - Ryan Dungey
2011 Washougal 450 winner - Ryan Dungey
2012 Washougal 450 winner - Ryan Dungey

mxr300ex, on 22 July 2012 - 08:48 AM, said:

Dungey has never finished off the podium in a championship since his rookie season in the lites class.  In that respect he stands alone, not even the current guys in the Lites class even have a chance at that record.

Overall,it was a great race,also I was glad to see someone other than Dungy win.I would have been just as excited if it was Weimer that won.I will say Dungy is putting KTM in the AMA history book.That's a fact.

Next year KTM will be even Bigger .    From what i understand   they will have a 2nd 450 rider . They will have a 2nd semi .  Also there are a few teams now that will Be switching to KTM .  Ryan  did what he was Hired to do .

OR Racer46, on 24 July 2012 - 09:51 AM, said:

Yes he did.And does a fine job doing it.AGREE.

IMO Dungey has not changed since hangtown. He just doesn't have the level of competition that he did making it seem like he found another gear or two. He would by no means gap a completely healthy rv2 or js7 by 20 seconds+

whoops dude, on 24 July 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

I agree though Dungey is very consistent, James not at all, and RV between the two.

whoops dude, on 24 July 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

I was at Hangtown, and RD has definitely changed, he has the bike dialed in and makes very few mistakes, he might not put 20 seconds on those guys, but RV, JS or CR would not be putting twenty second gaps on RD5 either,

The KTM has come a long wag since round 1 but I don't think James had his bike where it could be either

I think RV would have beat them both the first few rounds

Give us some "more tips" on how Dungey needs to work on his skills?

rolliew, on 16 August 2012 - 09:26 AM, said:

Tip #1 - While in the middle of a crash pay special attention to the location of the gas cap and your appendages....such as the nut sack....in order to prevent loosening or total loss of the said cap

Tip #2 - While behind any rider with a triple digit number pay special attention to the location of their bike at all times. Riders with triple digit numbers (800 for example) tend to vary their lines in order to maintain position on the track


Tip #3 - While perusing riders with a single digit number (7 for example) it is wise to sit back and wait for the inevitable to occur. Such as the infamous limped wristed sprain which is often sustained when a rider of questionable sexuality is distracted while checking out a hefty man toting a camera




Heed these warnings and the 450 National Championship will be thy reward

Edited by meyermetal, 16 August 2012 - 06:31 PM.

meyermetal, on 16 August 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:

hahahahhahaha