iv been trying to get a bike for a while now and now i have enough money i like the cr's frame and looks nice but iv been reading up on it and most people have been saying its hard to keep it running right with the carb i could be wrong but i have been hearing really good things about the yz250 +06 and how goos they are i ride in desert/sand and thats mostly it i can go all the way up to 3000$ and iv seen some 06 and 01 250's go for that so if you can help that well be great

honda4eva, on 10 July 2012 - 12:19 AM, said:

I'd say go look at some threads. Put some searches out there to see what's already been written on TT. To me YZ has a lot more benefits. For one thing it's still being made currently and the 06 is a lot newer than an 01'. The latest cool thing for cr's is to put an 01' and earlier motor in the third gen frame cr.. but the yz is there already. There's some that say the bottom end on the cr is stronger than the yz but I don't know . Both are great and so are the other brands. A nice rm,ktm or kx would be good too. I think it's more on what you can get for your money when you buy. I love my 01 cr. I'm predjudice since my bike is set up so well but you can do that with a bunch of bikes.. What color do you like? The great thing is that there is so much information in settings and mods for both of these bikes and a huge bank of knowledge from all the riders out there. I'm still bummed the TT garage isn't functioning as I used to just browse and check out other guys bikes for ideas for mine...funny yur name is Honda for ever?

Edited by hawaiidirtrider, 10 July 2012 - 01:44 AM.

around here there is at least a 1000.00 price difference between the two bikes you are looking at and the 06+ yz250 is getting really hard to find

The 06+ yz's are extremely hard to find used in my neck of the woods.  When I do find them they are right at the $3000 mark.  CR's can be bought for much less which gives you the left over money to get a new carb and a few other mods.  The carb problems of an 01+ cr can be solved for less than $200 by simply swapping to a PWK airstriker carb.  Don't rule out a 2002-2007 cr.  The lack of bottom end is fixed with the carb swap and having the squish set properly.  Plus I like the frame better than the 01's.

I will be honest though, I would recommend the YZ simply to support a company that still makes 2 strokes.  I will never give Honda my money again for that simple fact.  Plus the YZ has amazing suspension.  If you can find a good deal on one grab it.

c-slak, on 10 July 2012 - 08:51 AM, said:

i agree with everything you said except for not giving honda any money....i hear people say that all the time and i just dont get it for the simple fact that yamaha is the one that re-introduced the 4 stroke back into motocross racing in 98 or 99.....just saying that there is more than one guilty party when it comes to what happened to the 2 stroke....jmo...lol

bluedawg, on 10 July 2012 - 12:33 PM, said:

Honda literally controls the powers that be in the AMA that put the rules in place to allow the 450/250 advantage for 4 strokes.  Yes, Yamaha was the first to market with the 400 but it was only because the rules allowed for it and they seized on the chance to be first.  Honda has always been against the 2 stroke so much so that Mr Honda himself only allowed the Elsinore to come to being because their 4 stroke bikes were not competitive in racing.  Honda has also made public statements that they have no intention to ever bring back any form of 2 stroke into production claiming environmental bs.

I even go so far as to use aftermarket parts instead of OEM when fixing my bike whenever possible.  I know it's stupid but I am a firm believer of speaking your opinion with your pocketbook.  It's the only thing companies respect.

http://www.thumperta...d-the-2-stroke/

read the article in the link above.

i love my honda...haha....glad im not a hater....lifes to short and you can find something to hate in just about everything and everybody if thats what you want to do in this life....the choice is yours!!!

Found a really nice 2008 yz250 with only 10 hours on it for 3500 going to try and sell my goldwing to get a tralor

the 01 and older honda dont need a differant carb. the 02"s and newer you will want one. my 01 cr 250 will keep up with any bike at my local track. exccept mabe the A class ridders, but if thats who you want to keep up with, buy brand new.

I could buy brand new but I don't have 7 g to pay for a new bike

hondarider314, on 10 July 2012 - 05:55 PM, said:

Most people people don't have as much trouble with the Mikuni carb on the 01 CR but is still the same carb that comes on the 02+ CR's.  I guess the 01 engine wasn't as sensitive to a crappy carb.

I've got both.  The Yamaha sits a little taller.  The suspension quality is ever so slightly nicer on the Yamaha, but I honestly think they both need some thorough love to work decent.  Carb access is a little easier on the Yamaha, I think.

Swapping carbs on an older '01 is no big deal.

If I had to start fresh with neither bike, and knowing what I do now, I'd probably go with one of the '00/'01 CR's.  They can be found cheap, built cheap, maintained cheap, have a CA Green Sticker (if that matters) and it leaves a lot of money left over for gas/trips.

Found a yz125 for 400$

c-slak, on 10 July 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

the mikuni flat slides arnt crappy carbs. the proof is lots of other bikes use them and have no issues and sometimes solve issues. there isnt a huge differance between mukuni and kehien. honda changed up there motors in 02, roomer is, they tested and desighned that bike with a kehien, then put mukunis on them to more or less give the bike problems. notice in 02 honda introduced and expecive 4 stroke, and took a step backwards with there 2 stroke? not a coincidence...