Super Tired next day after Woods Riding
Posted 27 June 2012 - 11:37 AM
I'm a bit new to Woods riding on my 97 CR250R. I'm an Avid mountain biker, downhill XC, do weights, pretty reasonable shape, 33yrs old and 6ft 195lbs.
We've been doing 3.5-4.5hrs woods riding, in the low mountains, its been very muddy lately, working hard to get the bike out of the pits, dont' really drive fast, just techincal.
Anywho, i'm not that tired when riding, but when I get home i'm sort of fuzzy in the head for the night often. And the next day, I'm really tired, feel wasted even after eating lots and a good 8-9hrs sleep, usually the next day or after another couple hours of sleep I get back to feeling ok.
Is there any kind of conditioning, or breaks, or something I can do to help combat this mega tiredness thing I'm hitting? Its a bit wierd, I haven't had this problem with mountain biking before!
Posted 27 June 2012 - 11:43 AM
Posted 27 June 2012 - 11:49 AM
Posted 27 June 2012 - 11:50 AM
Bottom line; keep riding, you'll get stronger and your technique will improve. That will lead to lower energy output for the same ride. I've also started a core training class, which has helped me.
Edit: Forgot to add that I'm 35, 5'11", and 175lb. I was 185lb before I bought the bike. ;-)
Edited by benny_mech, 27 June 2012 - 11:53 AM.
Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:49 AM
I went out again the other day for a good 3.5hrs, legs are pretty sore, etc etc. Although its been extremly muddy the last few months here in Calgary, I've been having to haul the bike out of deep bogs, lift it up out of stuff, at least 10 times during rides (its just mud pit madness with all this rain) perhaps some of that is tiring me out?
I haven't gone to any training days yet, in fact I all I know about riding a dirt bike is bits and pieces from the internet, maybe with some technique it'll help with my fatigue! I might be trying to follow too close a line like the MTB, its strange getting used to the fact the dirt bike can roll over giant rocks and roots with total ease!
Perhaps more practice is what I need! Its a shame I have to load the trailer and drive 30min to the closest place, I bet if I got some tips from Vets, it would help! I mostly ride with a Quad guy, he doesn't have a ton of tips to help with so much )
Thanks for the responses! hopefully I can figure it out, its just kickin my butt!
Posted 05 July 2012 - 05:54 PM
Posted 07 July 2012 - 04:28 AM
Wow close to exhaustion, I did those long rides 4 to 6 hours in a desert like area and suffered muscle spasm. It also killed my riding schedule for a week or so. I found that I feel way better doing shorter trips, max 2 hours, going home normally and leaving the next day for another ride if time allows for it.
Posted 09 July 2012 - 11:18 AM
Its finally drying out around here, I think it might be the overall exertion from hauling the bike around the mud, maybe with smoother riding I'll last longer!
Also I sure did put this in the wrong section, alas such a n00b
Posted 11 July 2012 - 05:59 AM
Posted 23 July 2012 - 08:17 PM
That is why at the pro level...no amount of off bike training alone will suffice. There is fit...and there is MX fit. I read that some of the testing done on the riders at MTF showed they were at fitness levels that were on par...or even above that of many olympic level athletes. Some coaches had expressed a lot of interest in exactly what MTFs training regime was. They will not find answers that they can really use, as I would bet that this is not a result so much from MTFs training techniques...but from the fact that they ride a lot, at a high level.
Edited by Blutarsky, 23 July 2012 - 08:20 PM.
Posted 24 July 2012 - 12:02 PM
That'll do it!! Having to drag a 250 lb bike out of the mud over and over wears you down physically and mentally. Again, same deal here in the Pacific NorthWet! I've found that as I ride more and get a bit better though, I'm able to ride over stuff that used to stop me in my tracks. That makes a huge difference in energy expenditure. Make that motor do the work!
Also, what Blutarsky wrote above makes perfect sense. Must be why I'm so crash prone once I get tired out...
Posted 10 August 2012 - 11:19 AM
Posted 10 August 2012 - 12:15 PM
Blutarsky's post should be read by anyone who wants to ride motocross. What he said is such a critical element to riding on the track at competitive speeds.
Off-road riding at a good clip is just like motocross in many ways, it takes so much concentration and bike control (muscle memory). For me, the biggest difference between the two is the intensity. Motocross is ridden way more aggressively, without much time (outside of jumps) to relax. I feel off-road can be ridden a lot more relaxed because the speeds are more varied. You'll usually have more sit-down moments, time when you can just relax.
It could be your specific bike and the exact style of riding. Generally speaking, 250 2 strokes are easy to ride, its just how you set them up which makes a difference. Motocross specific bikes, aren't designed for off-road as much as you'd expect. The power delivery can be very abrupt/sharp on a motocross 2 stroke, where on an off-road 2 stroke, much more calm and relaxed. If you were to ride a modern KTM 250XC, you wouldn't know what to do with yourself. Plush suspension, torquy though relaxed motor, super light-weight chassis, etc. You feel like you're cheating riding the thing, thus proving its not 4 stroke vs 2 stroke. Todays modern 2 strokes are pretty amazing, lightyears better then a bike from the 90's.
You do use a lot of muscle groups that are not used on a regular basis in anything else. So because of that reason a lone, riding more is the best way to overcome the fitness wall when it comes to dirt bike riding. I can ride off-road all day long without feeling it one bit, yet I can only run about 3 - 5 laps on motocross course at full-tilt-boogie. Being efficient with your movements, being aggressive when you need to be and backing off when you don't, all critical elements.
Honestly, its all about seat time. Ride a lot, you will be benefited with longer riding time, its that simple.
Posted 18 August 2012 - 05:25 PM
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 04:47 AM
Posted 22 August 2012 - 04:54 AM
This...I find if I am dog tired after a good ride it is because i was not well enough hydrated. Start hydrating heavily a few days before riding and continue through the ride. It will make a huge difference.