yes you are right on everything, I might add that the cr wheel can use an odometer deleter, in other words  a spacer/sleeve sold on xrs only or ebay that slides on the axle taking up the space that the odometer drive used

if you are going to go ahead and get an electric odo like a vector, or bike speedo or anything else wired then you only need the spacer, if you have a machinist thats easy to do...

crfx wheels are more expensive but you see they are well priced compared to say xrl wheels huh?

also

what model crf forks? 250 or 450?

the 450x forks are knows as a bit harsh...

if you are heavy or over say 200 lbs you might benefit from these stiffer forks

remember cr is cross

crf is trails

250 damn near perfect straight swap
450 a little tuning might be needed

either make a damn good swap no mater what

whats your weight and riding style? terrain?

They are crf 250 forks. I weigh 170 and mostly ride double track powerline trails. I get in the tight woods stuff when i can.

So im guessing the xrl speedo cable will not work with the crf/x wheel?

todoublem, on 29 June 2012 - 08:39 AM, said:

YES IT WILL im using my xr cable, what you need though is either the odo drive(crfx) or the spacer to eliminate the odo all together, sorry if i wasn't clear

the odo drives look different but they have the same connector for the cable

mine is a crfx450 wheel and odo drive

cheers!

ohhhhhhhhhhhh ok.  That sounds good. Ill be looking for that on ebay as well. I'm going to jump these forks

I'm assuming that crf 450 triple trees will work, because the externals of the shocks are the same....

yes however some have different offset, but that does not affect the actual swap in any way

also cr250 forks the stops line up just fine, you do loose just a smidge of radius but that can be fixed by filing down the headstock finger just a bit

cheers

So with the crf front wheel/brake disk, do you loose or gain any stopping power?

all you are changing is the rotor, so get one in good condition or buy new...you reuse caliper...and mc

anywhoo

hey forgot to say I double checkedmy notes and the forks you want are late 98- 2003 showa twin chambers...somebody mentioned that in 2004 they changed caliper mounts yet again

so just in case get some 2002 or something like I have and you will not need any sort of bracket.

cheers

p.s. xrl;s weigh more so you could always upgrade rotor to an ebc or something at a later time...

I would reccomend new pads no matter what since youll be taking the caliper off and stuff

todoublem, on 02 July 2012 - 05:35 PM, said:

you lose a bit of weight

cr axle is hollow, hub rim and spokes combo is about a pound or so lighter than xr/xrl xrl rim in fact is stronger than xr or cr rims....

cr/crf axles are hollow and aluminum.

rotor is a lot lighter! so one would think you lose stopping power but not so, however the heavier the bike and rider will make the rotor heat up and fade if you really like to hammer it on the trails...you will notice that, but any brakes do that its just how long it takes to get fade...

Damn it. I bought 2005 forks this morning.

maybe I'll get lucky and It'll work.  If not I guess I'll just make a relocation bracket and go ahead and make larger brake disk while I'm at it.

elsalvadorklr, on 29 June 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

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Confused here.  I have a CRFX front wheel (2 actually)  and the speedo drive is most definitely not the same connector.  CRF is a screw on, round connection. XR is a square drive cable  that inserts into the opening and then a screw tightened holds it in.
Can't use an XR speedo drive with a CRF wheel.
I've been told you can use a CRF speedo drive but I haven't tried it.

todoublem, on 02 July 2012 - 05:35 PM, said:

Calipers are the same. Mounting bracket is only difference.

todoublem, on 02 July 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

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CRF caliper or even just the mounting bracket part of it is all you need.

MindBlower, on 02 July 2012 - 06:44 PM, said:

yeah i know, but the caliper probably isn't that far out of alignment with the rotor, so I might not be able to make a bracket that small.  So if a made a new rotor I'd get more stopping power and have an easier time making the bracket.  This is just a guess though.  I'll have to see when I get it.  Either way I'll post pics

hope you get lucky tudo...I think youll be ok..I just cant confirm right now

mindblower

I have a crfx450 wheel ando ODO drive...the odo drives are different for both wheels(i can post oics if you want) and they have different "drives" per wheel...

they do however use the same cable attachment(screw)

the cable is thinner on the x

the xr is thick and stuff but works just as well
maybe you have something else?

Im using my xr600 odo, cable and crfx drive and wheel

cheers

todoublem, on 02 July 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

let us know

cr250r?

todoublem, on 02 July 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

when buying ebc(overpriced in my opinion) rotor kits they come with oversize rotor and caliper extension bracket....

if you dont have a handy machinist and you dont want to spend mega bucks then just get a used crf caliper or the caliper that is used on the forks you bought...

the hose and mc will work on it no probs for sure

buying a used caliper is way cheap compared to a new rotor etc...

something like $20 and new pads for another $20 and youll have the same stopping power or effectiveness than an overzied rotor

Im not a fan of those ebs kits, they are way overpriced they look goofy and are heavy as hell

on a dirt bike you want a nice small light easily replaceable rotor

I forgot to mention the reason cr/crf rotors are lighter is they are half as thick as xrl

again good luck and sorry if I caused any trouble

youll be happy in the end

BELEIVE ME!

Yeah I know I could buy an extension bracket, but if the stock xr caliper doesn't line up with the stock crf rotor, it will not line up on an aftermarket one either.  I haven't bought a wheel yet, I'm going to wait until the forks get here and see how hard it will be to make the XR front wheel work before I buy another one.

todoublem, on 02 July 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

The mounting bracket that is part of the caliper is what I'm talking about, not a separate piece.

I didn't see anyone mention your probably going to need to get new (stiffer) springs and a re-valve would help a bunch too.