so i was wondering if you guys have any helpful tips and pointers.
Thanks heaps
Racing in sand?
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Crystal Jenner 88
, Jun 14 2012 04:20 PM
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 04:20 PM
hey names crystal. Anyways, i have a race coming up soon and its a complete sand motocross track. i have never raced there before so it will be my 1st time. Also i have no experience in riding in sand and i have no where to practice to ride in sand either.
so i was wondering if you guys have any helpful tips and pointers.
Thanks heaps
so i was wondering if you guys have any helpful tips and pointers.
Thanks heaps
Posted 14 June 2012 - 08:44 PM
relax and make sure you are looking for enough ahead. Staying on the gas slightly even when you are coasting helps prevent the front end for pushing or sliding out in corners. When i sit in sand i like to be right up against the tank. If you have to put a leg out in a corner you have to keep it up and in. The faster you go the easier it is to stay stable in sand.
Posted 14 June 2012 - 09:18 PM
keep your weight back off of the front tire, ride loose and stay on the gas. When you let off of the gas and let the front tire drop down into the sand is when you have problems. As far as cornering, dive in hard and stay on the gas hard, you can rail corners in sand, but you have to stay on the gas. Good luck.
Posted 15 June 2012 - 02:52 AM
All good advice. Often you don't actually need your brakes at all entering sand corners, and you STILL have to charge is harder than you would on hardpack. The sand is just constantly sapping your momentum. It's better to have speed and maintain it then it is to slow down and then try to speed up.
As for tires, the Pirelli MXS is like cheating it's so good. I don't really find that the front tire matters as much.
As for tires, the Pirelli MXS is like cheating it's so good. I don't really find that the front tire matters as much.
Posted 15 June 2012 - 06:24 AM
You can ride a heck of a lot more aggressive in sand, at least when it's smooth in the mornings....
Keep in mind the sand slows you down when you let off the gas, so you can come in faster brake later and get on the gas sooner and harder. If it's nice and deep (and wet) don't even worry about finding a line. You can just powerslide all the way around the corners; Come in fast, tap your brakes to break the traction and at the same time lean it over and pin it while slipping the clutch out. Before you know it you'll be counter-steering and WFO around the corners.
Keep in mind the sand slows you down when you let off the gas, so you can come in faster brake later and get on the gas sooner and harder. If it's nice and deep (and wet) don't even worry about finding a line. You can just powerslide all the way around the corners; Come in fast, tap your brakes to break the traction and at the same time lean it over and pin it while slipping the clutch out. Before you know it you'll be counter-steering and WFO around the corners.
Posted 17 June 2012 - 12:30 AM
Where about's are you from Crystal?
Sand is crap till you learn how to ride in it, then it's is actually very nice to ride in I think. Also if in doubt power out! Taking the shortest line around corners seems the go too. Have a watch of these, might be of some use to you or some else.
Good luck with your race.
Sand is crap till you learn how to ride in it, then it's is actually very nice to ride in I think. Also if in doubt power out! Taking the shortest line around corners seems the go too. Have a watch of these, might be of some use to you or some else.
Good luck with your race.
Posted 17 June 2012 - 08:12 AM
Awesome post. I hate when people say, "lean back and pin it". That's crap riding right there.
Posted 17 June 2012 - 05:53 PM
RGVMelb, on 17 June 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:
Where about's are you from Crystal?
Sand is crap till you learn how to ride in it, then it's is actually very nice to ride in I think. Also if in doubt power out! Taking the shortest line around corners seems the go too. Have a watch of these, might be of some use to you or some else.
Good luck with your race.
Sand is crap till you learn how to ride in it, then it's is actually very nice to ride in I think. Also if in doubt power out! Taking the shortest line around corners seems the go too. Have a watch of these, might be of some use to you or some else.
Good luck with your race.
hey i am from Maitland, NSW
and also thanks
Posted 17 June 2012 - 11:06 PM
RGVMelb, on 17 June 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:
Where about's are you from Crystal?
Sand is crap till you learn how to ride in it, then it's is actually very nice to ride in I think. Also if in doubt power out! Taking the shortest line around corners seems the go too. Have a watch of these, might be of some use to you or some else.
Good luck with your race.
Sand is crap till you learn how to ride in it, then it's is actually very nice to ride in I think. Also if in doubt power out! Taking the shortest line around corners seems the go too. Have a watch of these, might be of some use to you or some else.
Good luck with your race.
Great videos, I was going to post them, I actually raced at that track (rosebud) on Saturday, my first time racing in sand and it was so good, everyone here is pretty much spot on if you listen to what they wrote you will be fine
Posted 22 June 2012 - 02:22 AM
If the sand is really deep you can pretty much forget about your brakes, the sand will slow you down. In the corners, staying in a rut is not nearly as important as it is with a clay track. In sand, you can pretty much make your own run if that one doesn't work out for you. Good tips about trailing the throttle, especially on a 4 stroke if there's a good deal of engine brake. I would run a filter skin, again, if the sand is deep.
One of the main things is just have fun with it. Railing a deep sand berm just right is one of the best feelings you'll have on a MX track.
Best wishes.
One of the main things is just have fun with it. Railing a deep sand berm just right is one of the best feelings you'll have on a MX track.
Best wishes.
Posted 26 June 2012 - 04:27 PM
A little vid of a nonpro kid riding in the sand. You can see his body position shifting from soft to medium surface. Pretty tough track for a mini, but if you can ride this stuff...........
Posted 27 June 2012 - 01:24 PM
Good sand soil is the most fun you can have!!!!
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Posted 27 June 2012 - 07:41 PM
i know this is the mx section, but dunes are where it's at.
Edited by Die_trying, 27 June 2012 - 07:41 PM.
