Just bought the 06' CRF 450r and love the power and torque this bike offers. Immediately noticed how well the bike handled in rough terrain, rocks, logs, etc... But the ability to lug the bike in first or second gear on different obstacles or hills and I kill it. In one day of technical riding, I killed it over 10 times because of the lack of low end.
What can I do to help fix that issue. The bike is completely stock so this is starting fresh.
I also ride fast paced enduro races.
Fly wheel weights have been thrown in my direction, power reeds, re-jetting. I also seen the FMF mega bomb was supposed to help low end.
What are y'alls thoughts?
2006 CRF 450r low end kills?
Started by
kyleredden64
, Jun 06 2012 07:25 AM
10 replies to this topic
Posted 06 June 2012 - 09:13 AM
you can play with the jetting some, that will help and is cheap. the pipe will help, but its very pricey for the gains you will get. power reeds? i think they mean power now or somthing like that. that product helps but nothing earth shattering. fly wheel wieghts will also help, probably the bigest bang for the buck and might be able to pick one off of ebay for cheap. you should also consider a hi-comp piston and/or a Big Bore kit when it comes time to rebuild. those two will help with the low end as well.
Posted 06 June 2012 - 10:02 AM
1. Get the carb to flow properly over rough terrain at low rpms (cavitation issues) by using the R&D powerbowl
2. Needle: make sure you have a NCVS needle in there.
3. Leak jet and accelerator pump: you want a 50 leak, a merge racing apump linkgage spring, and time the pump so it NEVER hits the
slide
4. Put in a R&D remote fuel screw, so you can fine tune the pilot circuit for crisp off-idle throttle response on every ride
5. Now you can add a heavy flywheel weight, and you will notice a huge improvement
6. Put on a G2 'thottle tamer' throttle tube, to give your more throttle control
About 300 bucks and your are as good as it will get.
Powernow wings don't help
Pre-2007 FCR carbs have the apump spring issue (as mentioned), as well as crappy apump diaphrams and springs. Get a Powerbowl II, and Merge racing apump linkage spring and it will be better than FI.
2. Needle: make sure you have a NCVS needle in there.
3. Leak jet and accelerator pump: you want a 50 leak, a merge racing apump linkgage spring, and time the pump so it NEVER hits the
slide
4. Put in a R&D remote fuel screw, so you can fine tune the pilot circuit for crisp off-idle throttle response on every ride
5. Now you can add a heavy flywheel weight, and you will notice a huge improvement
6. Put on a G2 'thottle tamer' throttle tube, to give your more throttle control
About 300 bucks and your are as good as it will get.
Powernow wings don't help
Pre-2007 FCR carbs have the apump spring issue (as mentioned), as well as crappy apump diaphrams and springs. Get a Powerbowl II, and Merge racing apump linkage spring and it will be better than FI.
Posted 07 June 2012 - 07:43 AM
+1 on the FWW. I have a 2006 as well and the FWW (trail tech 8 oz I believe) helped with the stalling. Give them a call and they will help determine the best on based on what you are looking for. They say it can also help it add power and increase traction but I don't feel any of that. To me peformance is identical and the stall prevention is way better. Now I don't ride trails much but stalling in corners went from being a pretty big problem to almost non-existent.
Like the others have said, I am sure there is some fine tuning or aftermarket components for the carb but I personally have not had to resort to any of that once I put on the FWW.
The other option is to go with a rekluse auto clutch which are now much more reasonably priced.
Like the others have said, I am sure there is some fine tuning or aftermarket components for the carb but I personally have not had to resort to any of that once I put on the FWW.
The other option is to go with a rekluse auto clutch which are now much more reasonably priced.
Posted 08 June 2012 - 04:01 AM
Flywheels weight. Heaviest..... Seriously the HEAVIEST you cab find. This is a motocross bike you are using it offroad. The stock flywheels is a little heavier than a nickle. It will still spin the tire, lift the front and be Verry nauhty in every gear with a +13 oz fw. But it will tractor better and be more controlled.
The carb mods will help... Idk about the necessity of the rnd bowl.
The carb mods will help... Idk about the necessity of the rnd bowl.
Posted 08 June 2012 - 10:17 AM
If you like the low end hit but just want it to not stall so easily,
a 8 or 9 oz flywheel and turning up the idle will do it.
If you really want to slow it down then the 13 oz or more will be the ticket
a 8 or 9 oz flywheel and turning up the idle will do it.
If you really want to slow it down then the 13 oz or more will be the ticket
Posted 08 June 2012 - 06:53 PM
seehogs, on 08 June 2012 - 10:17 AM, said:
If you like the low end hit but just want it to not stall so easily,
a 8 or 9 oz flywheel and turning up the idle will do it.
If you really want to slow it down then the 13 oz or more will be the ticket
a 8 or 9 oz flywheel and turning up the idle will do it.
If you really want to slow it down then the 13 oz or more will be the ticket
Won't slow if down.
Probably speed it up due to increaced traction...
Unless Maby your running a supermoto up piles peak.
Posted 09 June 2012 - 11:59 AM
i went with a 50 tooth rear sprocket and love it... i think stock is 48... I've also tried a 49 and liked it, but the 50 is better for the tight trails and is still plenty fast in the higher gears








