I do like that new 2013 450 Honda
Reed should win everything next year
Stewart proving it was the Yamaha
Started by
turbotime
, May 19 2012 04:24 PM
256 replies to this topic
Posted 30 May 2012 - 04:06 PM
meyermetal, on 30 May 2012 - 03:37 PM, said:
I do like that new 2013 450 Honda
Reed should win everything next year
Reed should win everything next year
Posted 30 May 2012 - 04:07 PM
fourwheelingking, on 30 May 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:
yup thanks to the dual mufflers to keep the bike balanced
And to get a little more cash outta the consumers pocket when they want to upgrade the exhaust. Like they arent expensive enough already...
Edited by BDubb106, 30 May 2012 - 04:09 PM.
Posted 30 May 2012 - 04:11 PM
BDubb106, on 30 May 2012 - 04:07 PM, said:
And to get a little more cash outta the consumers pocket when they want to upgrade the exhaust. Like they arent expensive enough already...
Posted 30 May 2012 - 04:11 PM
BDubb106, on 30 May 2012 - 04:07 PM, said:
And to get a little more cash outta the consumers pocket when they want to upgrade the exhaust. Like they arent expensive enough already...
Everyone had a single exhaust for the 250. I'm sure they will do the same for this one
Posted 30 May 2012 - 04:14 PM
meyermetal, on 30 May 2012 - 04:11 PM, said:
Everyone had a single exhaust for the 250. I'm sure they will do the same for this one
Probably but its still the principle... I just dont see the reason for having a dual exhaust.
Posted 30 May 2012 - 04:45 PM
BDubb106, on 30 May 2012 - 04:14 PM, said:
Probably but its still the principle... I just dont see the reason for having a dual exhaust.
All KTM needs is 4 exhausts and J-Law.
Posted 30 May 2012 - 04:50 PM
2-Strokes 4-ever, on 30 May 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:
Honda "says" it's to meet sound requirements.
All KTM needs is 4 exhausts and J-Law.
All KTM needs is 4 exhausts and J-Law.
I still think its a crock of shit...
Posted 30 May 2012 - 04:53 PM
2-Strokes 4-ever, on 30 May 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:
Honda "says" it's to meet sound requirements.
Posted 01 June 2012 - 08:45 AM
cryzrider, on 28 May 2012 - 06:11 AM, said:
Just my opinion. I think the YZ engine is one of the faster of the 450 mills out there but the chassis seems off. It appears to want to drop the front end more even though it seems as if that's a characteristic of thumpers in general. Yamaha should really look at the dimensions and computer modeling of the chassis and try to make changes or it could go down like the 1979 Honda CR125 with the 23" front wheel as a flop. Sadly that was a beautiful bike but didn't handle and had a slow engine to boot.
Craigus
Craigus
They yz450 has consistently been the lowest HP producing motor of the 450s since all the players have been involved. Its a pretty well accepted idea that the YZ sacrifices a little bit of power in trade for superior longevity. Its the case in the 250s and the 450s
Edited by stlavsa, 01 June 2012 - 08:47 AM.
Posted 03 June 2012 - 02:13 AM
bluedawg, on 21 May 2012 - 12:56 PM, said:
all it proves to me is that bubba cant ride anybrand bike and go fast without crashing which takes away from his credentials as far as im concerned.....simply put is that bubba dont have enough skills to race a yamaha without crashing 10 out of 12 times....thats all that has been proven at this point
check 1
Posted 03 June 2012 - 02:15 AM
bluedawg, on 21 May 2012 - 03:00 PM, said:
you wouldnt understand if i spelled it out for you....you are blind to the facts...anyone that thinks the yamaha was or is bubbas problem is blind to the fact that its not the bike its bubba with the problem...now,are you saying that the yamaha cant be pushed without crashing it? what are you really trying to say?
check 2
Posted 03 June 2012 - 02:17 AM
bluedawg, on 21 May 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:
i dont think the problem with bubba has been fixed with a bike change or with a race win in a weak feild....his confidence may have been boosted and that goes a long ways on the track...i cant pass my judgement until the middle of 2013 sx series whether or not if bubba has fixed his problem or not because his problem is magnified more during sx when he has to think and react quicker and when its crowded around him and the compittion is more intense is when bubba has his problems....every crash i watched in slow motion was bubba and not the bike....of course i can push the yamaha without crashing it but this thread is about bubba not me...................one more thing to ad more dought to the bike theory....i would have been totally shocked if bubba could not have duplicated what he did at hangtown on the jgr yamaha instead of doing it on the suzuki....
check 3 REST MY CASE
Posted 03 June 2012 - 02:57 PM
bluedawg, on 03 June 2012 - 02:17 AM, said:
check 3 REST MY CASE
Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:08 PM
stlavsa, on 01 June 2012 - 08:45 AM, said:
They yz450 has consistently been the lowest HP producing motor of the 450s since all the players have been involved. Its a pretty well accepted idea that the YZ sacrifices a little bit of power in trade for superior longevity. Its the case in the 250s and the 450s
Here is a link for 2012 and in general that s just not good info, so not sure where you are coming up with that.
http://www.motocross...AKE-W-8506.aspx
Posted 04 June 2012 - 06:03 AM
ah665, on 03 June 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:
According to what? Thats just incorrect.
Here is a link for 2012 and in general that s just not good info, so not sure where you are coming up with that.
http://www.motocross...AKE-W-8506.aspx
Here is a link for 2012 and in general that s just not good info, so not sure where you are coming up with that.
http://www.motocross...AKE-W-8506.aspx
pre-2012 its good info. IF you go strictly by the motocross mag link it would appear that the 2012 engine re-do on the yzs have changed that.
Posted 04 June 2012 - 06:18 AM
The current EFI Yamaha has made more hp than the Honda motor, every year. The last few years of the carbed YZF, the peak hp was down but the main reason was only because of the ridiculously restictive exhaust. It has nothing to do with being a 'slower motor to gain reliability'. The motor is reliable because it is built quality.
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