Dave Wood, on 10 May 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:
Trials tires minimize impact to the trail. Throttle jockeys, including former mx riders do impact Pristine Mtn. trails. Wheel spinning and brake sliding. Some riders consider themselves fast, by how fast ones tire is spinning. Speed comes from getting the tire hooked up. The Trials tire works great for riders who understand that, from Pros to first time riders on TT.
Just need to add that this really only applies when conditions are dry. I've witnessed a number of times now a trials tire eff' up a trail because conditions were too wet.
BODIEFW, on 11 May 2012 - 01:48 AM, said:
I am happy for you that you are such an accomplished rider, and I do agree that a TT does WAY LESS DAMAGE to a trail than any kind of knobby. Yes, speed comes from putting traction down in the most effective and efficient matter. The only point I was trying to make was that fast guys don't usually use them. J Brandt (whom I believe one the Fools Gold enduro up North doesn't use one) AND NONE of the top 20 National H&H guys use them. And it ain't rocket science why they don't use em'.....its cause at their speeds they don't work!!! They don't like heavy
braking (which you would encounter at race speeds in singletrack) and they definitely don't like high desert speeds, whoops or sand. And that's truly is awesome that a bunch of you 50 year olds are still killing it out there....and I don't mean that in a condesending way whatsoever, but name me one top off road rider (that races a series that gets out of 4th gear regularly) who uses a TT and you'll win a willy wonka chocholate bar
. And I know we will both be in agreement that there is a major difference in how you are riding a bike trail riding vs racing
I think you've got to realize the obvious, most none of these posters in this forum are racers. Almost all are weekend trail riders, of which could benefit from a trials tire.
...and I don't think Brandt won last weekend at he FG. He burned a crutial check whereas his competition did not.
Also, I would agree that a trials tire would not be good to run in the "A" or "B" class at an enduro. I'd bet Wood would agree with me on that one too. The classes are too competitive where the trials tire would be a hinderence in high speed cornering.
andrew34, on 09 May 2012 - 03:05 PM, said:
- If you are a fast rider, the potential negatives outweigh the positives (unless you do extreme enduros for a living)
- If you're average, the positives far outweigh the negatives
- If you're slower...What the Fack are you waiting for!!! Put one of these things on, because they will make you feel like David Night
- If you don't know wether you're slower, average, or fast......you're definitely not fast
The only way to find out if it's for you is throw one on and see for yourself. I gave one the old college try......and in some situations I understood what all the fuss what about. But in most situations, it put the fear of god in me
IMO, this is probably the most logical post in here on the subject.
superslyko, on 09 May 2012 - 11:56 AM, said:
Anybody try it or have a similar experience.
If I'd recommend one to anyone, it would be you, Slyko. I've seen video of you spinning trenches and watched you do it right in front of my eyes last weekend. You could use one, as too learn how to weight your rear wheel much better. ...but for the most part, you need to stay on terrain that encompasses your skills and not tackle the stuff that's out of your range. You're creating more work for us that tend to the trails you attempt to ride.
Dave Wood, on 10 May 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:
Either tire one choses to run, try to keep it hooked up and driving forward. Minimize ones impact to the trails. The best riders can ride a trail very fast and leave no trace.
Edited by yzwiley, 11 May 2012 - 08:11 AM.
