Vesrah, Wiseco, Hot Rods, etc, have connecting rods available for pretty much any dirtbike.
How are they compared to OEM ...anybody had success, or failures, running an aftermarket rod ?
What are the Pro's and Con's to running aftermarket vs OEM ?
Aftermarket connecting rods any good ? ...Pro's and Con's ?
Started by
yamaha7442
, May 06 2012 05:56 AM
18 replies to this topic
Posted 06 May 2012 - 11:47 PM
OE rod kits cost around $100. You know they work, why try anything different?
Posted 07 May 2012 - 12:31 AM
1987CR250R, on 06 May 2012 - 11:47 PM, said:
OE rod kits cost around $100. You know they work, why try anything different?
With a hot motor like a big bore or revving the piss out of a stocker. Or making 10HP more than stocK. I would surely feel more comfterable with a USA made Carillo.
Posted 08 May 2012 - 09:48 AM
I've run wiseco, hotrods, and prox...never had a premature failure. Vesrah supplies parts for some OEM's
. So far I haven't heard an argument against them with any basis in experience or fact. I generally consider OEM the best, but do any of you giving these products the "thumbs down" have any negative experience with them, or are your opinions merely conjecture? Do tell.
. So far I haven't heard an argument against them with any basis in experience or fact. I generally consider OEM the best, but do any of you giving these products the "thumbs down" have any negative experience with them, or are your opinions merely conjecture? Do tell.
Posted 08 May 2012 - 09:07 PM
36MotoMarc, on 08 May 2012 - 09:48 AM, said:
I've run wiseco, hotrods, and prox...never had a premature failure. Vesrah supplies parts for some OEM's
. So far I haven't heard an argument against them with any basis in experience or fact. I generally consider OEM the best, but do any of you giving these products the "thumbs down" have any negative experience with them, or are your opinions merely conjecture? Do tell.
. So far I haven't heard an argument against them with any basis in experience or fact. I generally consider OEM the best, but do any of you giving these products the "thumbs down" have any negative experience with them, or are your opinions merely conjecture? Do tell.
well why do you say oem is best.
I say Carillo is best.
They build a hell of a rod.
Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:19 AM
englertracing, on 08 May 2012 - 09:07 PM, said:
I feel OEM is best because they do the most durability testing for each specific application and have engineered and designed the whole motor, not just a single component. However in the context of the OP's question, I HAVE had good experiences with the AM rods, and HAVE NOT had any premature/quality related failures.
I'm sure Carillo is great maybe better than OEM, or maybe Pankl, but have not actually used either so MY opinion on them is merely conjecture!! Fact on those is they are more expensive than anything else.
Posted 10 May 2012 - 02:06 PM
if you look at this link, there are a ton of rod manufacturers
http://www.alibaba.c...ecting-rod.html
...rebuilding an ATC 250R motor, and need some parts,
OEM stuff can be hard to find for some of the older bikes.
I havent heard of any actual "rod" failures, OEM or Aftermarket.
Usually, a bearing goes, then the rod. But have'nt seen any rods go,
with the bearings still in good shape... so far, anyway
http://www.alibaba.c...ecting-rod.html
...rebuilding an ATC 250R motor, and need some parts,
OEM stuff can be hard to find for some of the older bikes.
I havent heard of any actual "rod" failures, OEM or Aftermarket.
Usually, a bearing goes, then the rod. But have'nt seen any rods go,
with the bearings still in good shape... so far, anyway
Posted 10 May 2012 - 09:37 PM
36MotoMarc, on 10 May 2012 - 11:19 AM, said:
I feel OEM is best because they do the most durability testing for each specific application and have engineered and designed the whole motor, not just a single component. However in the context of the OP's question, I HAVE had good experiences with the AM rods, and HAVE NOT had any premature/quality related failures.
I'm sure Carillo is great maybe better than OEM, or maybe Pankl, but have not actually used either so MY opinion on them is merely conjecture!! Fact on those is they are more expensive than anything else.
Well in automotive carrillos are cream of the crop steel rods. My friend runs them in an 850hp Sprint car and ran them in a 15,000rpm alcahol injected Honda cb750 in a tq midget. My brothers jawa speedway uses one its a 400$ rod.
Your just not farmiliar. The only thing better than a Carillo is Maby forged titanium Maby... But you won't find anyone forging it only billet.
Posted 12 May 2012 - 06:33 AM
LS9's appparently have forged ti con rods ...Wonder who GM gets to make them ?
LS9 specs
Displacement: 6.2L (376 cubic inches)
Bore x stroke: 4.125 x 3.620 inches
Crankshaft: forged steel
Connecting rods: forged titanium
Cylinder heads: roto-cast aluminum
Valves: 2.16-inch titanium, intake; 1.59-inch sodium-filled, exhaust
Induction: supercharged
Compression ratio: 9.1:1
Horsepower: 638 @ 6,500 rpm
Torque: 604 lb.-ft. @ 3,800 rpm
LS9 specs
Displacement: 6.2L (376 cubic inches)
Bore x stroke: 4.125 x 3.620 inches
Crankshaft: forged steel
Connecting rods: forged titanium
Cylinder heads: roto-cast aluminum
Valves: 2.16-inch titanium, intake; 1.59-inch sodium-filled, exhaust
Induction: supercharged
Compression ratio: 9.1:1
Horsepower: 638 @ 6,500 rpm
Torque: 604 lb.-ft. @ 3,800 rpm
Posted 12 May 2012 - 01:24 PM
1987CR250R, on 12 May 2012 - 01:22 PM, said:
Probably Carillo I know GM used Mahle to make the pistons for their 6.2L diesel.
But... I made my comment about OEM because they are guaranteed quality. Rod failures are rare. You know the OEM stuff wont fail so why take any risk with aftermarket components?
But... I made my comment about OEM because they are guaranteed quality. Rod failures are rare. You know the OEM stuff wont fail so why take any risk with aftermarket components?
Yeah good point rod failures are rare......
Posted 22 May 2012 - 10:43 PM
englertracing, on 08 May 2012 - 09:07 PM, said:
What the heck! That's a trip that Carillo makes rods for bikes. I have to agree that it is the very BEST rod made. My uncle had Carillo rods and Vertex pistons in his 800+HP blown 392 gas Hemi used in his flatbottom. That boat motor was bulletproof! He used to give us rides and romp on the throttle season after season.
I would highly recommend a Carillo rod for anything other than stock use.
Edited by ballisticexchris, 22 May 2012 - 10:44 PM.
Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:44 AM
for those that don't keep up with metal working, now specialy heat treated cranks and rods are now as strong or stronger then forged units. technology keep's marching forward. some good advice was listed on here, if you are hot roding the bike w a BB kit or hotter cams or HC pistons, i would go with a carillo or pankl. uptite husky has rods made for a number of husky models by carillo..
