Pick up a CRF450X and this thing is PIG,allmost blew a nut puting it on a stand,Im thinking I should have keep my 02 EXC 520,I just built a 09 XCF 250 and put a 320 kit in it,great for single track but Im ringing its neck down in Baja,this 450x has some power I just hope I like it for a all aound bike.
09 crf450x what a pig
Started by
lennys
, May 03 2012 04:40 PM
27 replies to this topic
Posted 04 May 2012 - 03:41 AM
azza13b, on 04 May 2012 - 12:00 AM, said:
Don't get your post, are you bitching or are you happy?
Posted 04 May 2012 - 04:19 AM
Not sure im going to like this bike,everyone tells me there great but this thing fills like a pig,I havent rode it in the dirt yet.
Posted 04 May 2012 - 04:41 AM
A little extra weight in the desert isn't always a bad thing. The 650 is a HUGE pig and is still preferred by alot of desert riders. I love my 450X in Baja. Give it a chance!
Posted 04 May 2012 - 04:46 AM
or come back when you have some informed opinions on it or specific concerns.
Until then it's just
Until then it's just
Edited by JimDettman, 04 May 2012 - 04:46 AM.
Posted 04 May 2012 - 05:20 AM
lennys, on 04 May 2012 - 04:19 AM, said:
Not sure im going to like this bike,everyone tells me there great but this thing fills like a pig,I havent rode it in the dirt yet.
They all lied just to piss you off.
Posted 04 May 2012 - 01:13 PM
The X is a boat anchor, but feels lighter than it is while riding, assuming you have your suspension set up properly. Regardless, it needs a diet. Start by ditching the 50lb stock exhaust system and replacing it with a full Ti system. Expensive, but worth it IMO. Next, swap the battery for a lithium unit such as Shorai. Switch to the tubliss system instead of HD tubes. Scrap the heavy stock kickstand and replace it with a lighter PMB unit. Yank the heavy stock ODO, cable and drive unit. Remove all the smog crap. Replace the stock clutch lever and perch with something from ASV or Works Connection. Get a plastic chain guide such as TM Designworks (tougher and lighter). Run an Ironman rear sprocket (tough as nails and light weight). Toss the heavy air filter screen and use a flame resistant filter and plastic cage such as the NoToil kit or just remove the screen from the stock plastic cage. Every little bit counts!
Resist the urge to adorn your X with heavy bolt on items such as blingy aluminum gas caps, anodized doo dads, full graphics kits, aluminum skid plates, full wrap radiator gaurds and all the other BS aluminum bolt on gaurds. Plastic skid plates are much lighter and allow your frame to flex the way it was intended.
I've done everything stated above and the difference in weight, whether on the bike or off, is astonishing. The bike handles better in every way and I can ride harder for much longer periods of time without feeling wiped out. As a bonus, I crash less often and my body and bike thanks me.
If you really wanna get crazy you can completely remove the headlight, kickstand & starter but the weight savings isn't worth the trade off IMO. You could also invest in Ti axles, fastener kits, pegs and shock spring.
Resist the urge to adorn your X with heavy bolt on items such as blingy aluminum gas caps, anodized doo dads, full graphics kits, aluminum skid plates, full wrap radiator gaurds and all the other BS aluminum bolt on gaurds. Plastic skid plates are much lighter and allow your frame to flex the way it was intended.
I've done everything stated above and the difference in weight, whether on the bike or off, is astonishing. The bike handles better in every way and I can ride harder for much longer periods of time without feeling wiped out. As a bonus, I crash less often and my body and bike thanks me.
If you really wanna get crazy you can completely remove the headlight, kickstand & starter but the weight savings isn't worth the trade off IMO. You could also invest in Ti axles, fastener kits, pegs and shock spring.
Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:26 PM
What does that old KTM weigh? I wouldn't think there would be much difference. You need to ride that 450X before you complain about it.
Posted 05 May 2012 - 04:25 AM
MasterT2000, on 04 May 2012 - 01:13 PM, said:
The X is a boat anchor, but feels lighter than it is while riding, assuming you have your suspension set up properly. Regardless, it needs a diet. Start by ditching the 50lb stock exhaust system and replacing it with a full Ti system. Expensive, but worth it IMO. Next, swap the battery for a lithium unit such as Shorai. Switch to the tubliss system instead of HD tubes. Scrap the heavy stock kickstand and replace it with a lighter PMB unit. Yank the heavy stock ODO, cable and drive unit. Remove all the smog crap. Replace the stock clutch lever and perch with something from ASV or Works Connection. Get a plastic chain guide such as TM Designworks (tougher and lighter). Run an Ironman rear sprocket (tough as nails and light weight). Toss the heavy air filter screen and use a flame resistant filter and plastic cage such as the NoToil kit or just remove the screen from the stock plastic cage. Every little bit counts!
Resist the urge to adorn your X with heavy bolt on items such as blingy aluminum gas caps, anodized doo dads, full graphics kits, aluminum skid plates, full wrap radiator gaurds and all the other BS aluminum bolt on gaurds. Plastic skid plates are much lighter and allow your frame to flex the way it was intended.
I've done everything stated above and the difference in weight, whether on the bike or off, is astonishing. The bike handles better in every way and I can ride harder for much longer periods of time without feeling wiped out. As a bonus, I crash less often and my body and bike thanks me.
If you really wanna get crazy you can completely remove the headlight, kickstand & starter but the weight savings isn't worth the trade off IMO. You could also invest in Ti axles, fastener kits, pegs and shock spring.
Resist the urge to adorn your X with heavy bolt on items such as blingy aluminum gas caps, anodized doo dads, full graphics kits, aluminum skid plates, full wrap radiator gaurds and all the other BS aluminum bolt on gaurds. Plastic skid plates are much lighter and allow your frame to flex the way it was intended.
I've done everything stated above and the difference in weight, whether on the bike or off, is astonishing. The bike handles better in every way and I can ride harder for much longer periods of time without feeling wiped out. As a bonus, I crash less often and my body and bike thanks me.
If you really wanna get crazy you can completely remove the headlight, kickstand & starter but the weight savings isn't worth the trade off IMO. You could also invest in Ti axles, fastener kits, pegs and shock spring.
Plastic sump guards, and no radiator protectors is just pure madness in my mind.
I have not made any weight saving mods on my bike. I use it to guide people arong some pretty serious terrain (my job), and can keep up with all of them!!!
A heavy air filter screen???? Are you sure????? My energy bar weighs more than that!
Posted 05 May 2012 - 05:49 AM
FWIW,
450X - 278 lbs
250X - 264 lbs
ready to ride. Both bikes are stock except for Cyra Bark Busters with Triple Clamp mounts and a tire change to Dunlop MX-51's front and rear. The 450x also has a HD tube in the rear tire.
And those are actual scale weights BTW, not what it says in the manual.
Jim.
450X - 278 lbs
250X - 264 lbs
ready to ride. Both bikes are stock except for Cyra Bark Busters with Triple Clamp mounts and a tire change to Dunlop MX-51's front and rear. The 450x also has a HD tube in the rear tire.
And those are actual scale weights BTW, not what it says in the manual.
Jim.
Posted 05 May 2012 - 12:15 PM
JimDettman, on 05 May 2012 - 05:49 AM, said:
FWIW,
450X - 278 lbs
250X - 264 lbs
ready to ride. Both bikes are stock except for Cyra Bark Busters with Triple Clamp mounts and a tire change to Dunlop MX-51's front and rear. The 450x also has a HD tube in the rear tire.
And those are actual scale weights BTW, not what it says in the manual.
Jim.
450X - 278 lbs
250X - 264 lbs
ready to ride. Both bikes are stock except for Cyra Bark Busters with Triple Clamp mounts and a tire change to Dunlop MX-51's front and rear. The 450x also has a HD tube in the rear tire.
And those are actual scale weights BTW, not what it says in the manual.
Jim.
I got my 450X down to 271 with 3.0 gallons, doing some sensible mods.
My 500 XC-W is 260 with 2.2 gallons, but feels like 225.
Edited by Krannie, 05 May 2012 - 12:16 PM.
Posted 06 May 2012 - 08:44 AM
Alright so I thought my 06 450 was 250 lbs cause thats what the truck scale down the road said. So I was amazed when I saw the weights posted here. I just weighed it full of gas with my digital scale from work and it weighed in at 274. Holy crap it is heavy! However its worth its weight in gold! 
Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:25 AM
I am glad I read this. Curious to what others have been getting for weights. Please note on the KTM web site the weights of the bikes are without fuel. That is a chunk of weight not accounted for on their part.
IMO the bike feels heavy during a few events. Trying to stop is the most noticeable. In tight trees where you are flicking from side to side is the other. The weight does not bother me the rest of the time.
Dial in your suspension or have someone who knows what they are doing help you, it makes a big difference all around
IMO the bike feels heavy during a few events. Trying to stop is the most noticeable. In tight trees where you are flicking from side to side is the other. The weight does not bother me the rest of the time.
Dial in your suspension or have someone who knows what they are doing help you, it makes a big difference all around
Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:38 AM
MasterT2000, on 04 May 2012 - 01:13 PM, said:
The X is a boat anchor, but feels lighter than it is while riding, assuming you have your suspension set up properly. Regardless, it needs a diet. Start by ditching the 50lb stock exhaust system and replacing it with a full Ti system. Expensive, but worth it IMO. Next, swap the battery for a lithium unit such as Shorai. Switch to the tubliss system instead of HD tubes. Scrap the heavy stock kickstand and replace it with a lighter PMB unit. Yank the heavy stock ODO, cable and drive unit. Remove all the smog crap. Replace the stock clutch lever and perch with something from ASV or Works Connection. Get a plastic chain guide such as TM Designworks (tougher and lighter). Run an Ironman rear sprocket (tough as nails and light weight). Toss the heavy air filter screen and use a flame resistant filter and plastic cage such as the NoToil kit or just remove the screen from the stock plastic cage. Every little bit counts!
Resist the urge to adorn your X with heavy bolt on items such as blingy aluminum gas caps, anodized doo dads, full graphics kits, aluminum skid plates, full wrap radiator gaurds and all the other BS aluminum bolt on gaurds. Plastic skid plates are much lighter and allow your frame to flex the way it was intended.
I've done everything stated above and the difference in weight, whether on the bike or off, is astonishing. The bike handles better in every way and I can ride harder for much longer periods of time without feeling wiped out. As a bonus, I crash less often and my body and bike thanks me.
If you really wanna get crazy you can completely remove the headlight, kickstand & starter but the weight savings isn't worth the trade off IMO. You could also invest in Ti axles, fastener kits, pegs and shock spring.
Resist the urge to adorn your X with heavy bolt on items such as blingy aluminum gas caps, anodized doo dads, full graphics kits, aluminum skid plates, full wrap radiator gaurds and all the other BS aluminum bolt on gaurds. Plastic skid plates are much lighter and allow your frame to flex the way it was intended.
I've done everything stated above and the difference in weight, whether on the bike or off, is astonishing. The bike handles better in every way and I can ride harder for much longer periods of time without feeling wiped out. As a bonus, I crash less often and my body and bike thanks me.
If you really wanna get crazy you can completely remove the headlight, kickstand & starter but the weight savings isn't worth the trade off IMO. You could also invest in Ti axles, fastener kits, pegs and shock spring.
I'm glad I have an aluminum (Ricochet Offroad) skid plate. I've hit some big rocks in Red Mountain and Johnson Valley that I don't think a plastic one could have handled. I think I need to loose the weight more than the bike does.
