Yz 250....Best power band foor the woods?
Posted 01 May 2012 - 02:55 PM
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:43 AM
the yz250 makes a great woods bike. soften up or maybe re-valve the suspension for woods riding. i recommend a 9oz fly wheel weight. for pure woods riding you might want an 11oz or 13oz. some hand guards and you're all set. just as good as any ktm IMO. do a search on for "woods yz250" and you'll get more info than you could ever want.
Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:42 AM
It will do excellent in the woods/bush/enduros/trails, whatever we call it, even offroad. At 211.0 lbs dry weight todate (2012 model) in stock-trim, plus around 18.8 lbs of fluids (fork oil, coolant, transmission oil, brake fluid, and a full tank 8 litres of premix fuel), it only has a curb or operating weight of approx. 230 lbs. It is the lightest amongst all 250 2-stroke these days, lighter than the 2012 250SX that is weighing 217.0 lbs dry.
Those who are more in the know as far as adapting it for enduros and technical trails, they keep the engine in STOCK configuration and mate it with either a full WR gear set or the 3-4-5 WR gears. They also ride with the stock pipe, whilst some install GYTR pipes. They do revalve the suspension for their preference and that's it, READY TO RIDE!
The aluminium YZ250 is a simple, no-frills bike that delivers way beyond expectation. It is NOT prone to puking. It's a bike of substance and it does NOT capitalise on blings and propaganda. It however demands a rider who is willing to take on it and who knows how to ride it. Incidentally, it's only limitation, is also the rider himself.
Goodluck on your choice mate! Cheers!
Yamaha claims 227 lbs wet weight for the 2012 YZ250.
It's been tested at 218 wet, no fuel. The KTM is 217 wet, no fuel, which is 5 lbs heavier than last year (since going to a linkage rear suspension). So the KTM is 1 lb lighter, and previous models were 6 lbs lighter.
While I love my YZ, it's been basically stagnent for 6 model years now. KTM is pushing foward and improving their bikes. Sure the YZ was better 6 years ago, but things have changed. I'd love to see Yamaha counter with a ubber light YZ250, adjustable ignition mapping and powervalve, improved ergo's, etc etc. So far they don't seem interested.
Posted 02 May 2012 - 09:04 AM
If somebody says that a bike has tractable power. I expect that bike to be underpowered.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:36 AM
Depends on how you define "best"
The YZ power delivery is broad and smooth FOR A 2t MX BIKE, without giving up any significant overall power, so if that is all you are comparing it to, the answer is a resounding yes!
But, not everyone rides or wants to ride a 2stroke mxer in the woods, and different people do vastly different types of "woods riding". Are you plodding along at a mild trail ride pace or are you trying to win a race? For pure recreational low-speed trail cruising in the woods, I'd say my old DR350 had a perfect powerband, it was super-tractable, and admittedly severly underpowered (and overweight as well), but I could cruise around the easy trails with my buddies all day long and never break a sweat and all I had to do to get over a rock or root in my way was ease up to it and twist the throttle a little.
I'm still no top racer, but my appetite for speed and challenging trail obstacles has increased, and I'm far quicker through the techy tight woods trails aboard my YZ than I have been on any other bike (including my brother's '04 KTM 200exc, which is an excellent woods bike in its own regard). The YZ is light, the handling is point and shoot as it goes exactly where I tell it to, and the powerband is just broad and smooth enough for me while still having lots of teeth to really light things up if I want. I still think I might like a little added flywheel mass, but the more I ride the bike and get used to it the less I think it is "needed". As an overall package, I think a modded YZ that has the suspension dialed in is about as good a woods racer as any bike you'll find.
Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:45 AM
I have a RMZ 450, and I love the bike for mx but I don't think it would make a better woods bike then a 2 stroke 250 or any 2 stroke. They over heat faster and are prone to flame out at low speed. These bikes are meant to go fast and keep moving.
Posted 02 May 2012 - 11:05 AM
Each bike has pros and cons, all of which can be addressed to varying degree. However, he's asking if the yz250 has rthe best powerband for woods riding and my opinion is that it does not. Further, I'd say that pretty much any 450 has better power for woods riding, or any type of riding for that matter.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 12:09 PM
Not saying one bike has all that above but you hafta weigh all attributes of bike. I've found a few YZ subsitutes (KX and CR) that I just happen to like better for technical slow woods riding. That's not to say the YZ is bad or worse than these bikes I just like them better as a "package".
Also, while the CR has "tractible" power the KX does not - Shagger. It is a stump puller torque wise though.